Pete, I took watergal's statement of Again, this has NOTHING to do with water column pressure gradient... as saying that her post does not address our vertical/horizontal discussion, but as refuting your statement that "taken to it's logical conclusion, sanding on your head would be more efficient."Originally posted by NetDoc
Thank you WaterGal!!!
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Breathing comes mostly from the diaphragm, and I agree any difference in efficiency would be very minimal... 2% max (either way) at 15 ft!
A bouquet of to you for your fact finding efforts...
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your jubilation, but it appears you interpreted Watergals pulmonologist buddy as supporting your position. I took it as not addressing either of our positions except to say, standing on your head would be a bad idea because your guts would be sitting on top of your diagphram.
Watergal, perhaps you could clarify since I think that Pete and I saw two completely different posts in your one.
I don't think danger has ever entered into the discussion. It's simply more efficient, so it pads your safety margin just a little bit more.Originally posted by NetDoc
Finally, I do not believe that the amount of difference would be enough to put anyone in danger. I believe the number given was 5%, and that for only the lower alveoli. If the average depth of all alveoli (between 6 and 18 inches) equated to a 1 foot increase of depth, this would only be an actual 3 % change of pressure at water level(1/33=0.0303). This would be reduced to a mere 2% change at a 15 foot safety stop(1/48=0.0208) (for simplicitys sake, I just used 33 ft for the first atmosphere of pressure...
Pete, where did the 5% number come from and to what are you referring to?
I still don't understand what the 3% or 2% is supposed to mean, that's the delta in pressure, but given that supposedly you can embolize in 6 feet of water, that means you can cause major lung damage at mere 18%, so these small numbers can mean something. I also don't understand why you're basing your percentages on 1 ATM. If I'm vertical at the safety stop (assuming average lung depth is 1 foot lower than my mouth) that's a .5 psi difference, and if I'm at 100 feet that's still a .5 psi difference. Are you saying that depth is an additional variable?
If we were talking a closed system and Boyles Law I could see where the % would be pertinent, but we're talking about an open system, and drawing gas into your lungs against a 1 foot/.5 psi deficit is the same no matter what the depth.
Roak