bp/w advice - OxyCheq, others..

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So here's where I'd go.

John has his own brand of SS plate for about $90, I'd look at that or the DSS Large plate about $250, he should have one in stock. Simply for cost, the NESS plate is likely fine unless you want the DSS weight plates. The plates can be removed in about 5 minutes, it's not hard if you're flying to remove, but you will obviously have to replace that with lead on a belt or other source when travelling, need to assess how much local vs. flying diving you'll be doing to make that decision. It may be worth getting a wing that doesn't need an STA for travel, and then get a weighted STA for local diving, steel tanks are really going to be the biggest difference for you though. Even just going from an AL80 to an LP72 will cut almost 5lbs off of your belt with less weight on land. PST95's or 104's are 3.3lbs negative so that is about 8lbs off of your belt compared to an AL80, well worth the investment in these bottles.
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These are short little things but are 3.3lbs negative as well and hold 82CF, they're just really short. Nifty little bottles though
Scuba tanks Steel doubles Nitrox
Their big brothers, only 1.3lbs negative, but that's 6lbs off of your belt from an AL80 and they hold just over 120CF of air. Being 6'2" or taller is best for these beasties
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Look like 119's maybe which are 2lbs ish negative, could be wrong, but also a decent deal, may make a deal on all 4 bottles. $150/bottle is a great price for steels, $200-$250 is normal.

Harness, the Dive Rite Deluxe and all of the one piece harnesses adjust the same way, pull the waist strap up through the shoulder straps. With DSS rig you can use their slide adapter thing on one side with these, for your size you might need the chest strap to keep the shoulders where they should be so I'd at least start with that one. You can use this just like a one piece harness if you want to down the road by removing the chest strap *takes about 30 seconds*. Adjustment for exposure protection is mainly to compensate for the shoulders becoming tight, at your size I'd bet that the difference between 3mm and 7mm is pretty negligible, so I'd set it with the 7mm on and it should be close enough even without exposure protection.

Transplate has cinch straps on the shoulders so once you put the waist strap in it doesn't move, there's no real adjustment here, only adjustment is where the transition plates come up from the waist strap for the shoulders and even with exposure protection those are pretty much a set and forget type item, shoulder straps are also pretty much set and forget since they stay pretty loose if fitted properly.

Wings, touch and feel and find the one you like best, can't really go wrong. John likes moving inventory so he'll likely cut you a deal on something he has boat loads of but you really can't go wrong with any of the major brands. If you like the Oxycheq, get the Oxycheq, it's a good wing. If you like another one get that, don't know any of John's staff, but know him and he's a very knowledgeable on all of this stuff and talking to him directly may get you some real good answers. Ask to see his rig and go from there, he's certainly not the skinniest guy on the planet and seeing his rig may help you get a good start on yours since he has access to whatever he wants.
 
Thanks, TBone - very helpful advice. If I keep diving like I expect to, I'll likely buy some used steel tanks next summer. I'll also work on reducing my BMI... but I predict steel tanks are gonna be easier!

Simply for cost, the NESS plate is likely fine unless you want the DSS weight plates. The plates can be removed in about 5 minutes,
I'll have to look at this DSS bp and removable weights, but to be honest, it's not obvious it's worth the cost to me. I'm more than a little "handy", and have a fairly well equipped shop in my basement, including a drill press. Sure SS is a PITA to work, but what's the big deal about drilling a few holes in a different SS BP and bolting on ballast for my local diving? Yes, yes, use SS hardware, and watch out for corrosion, electrolysis from different metals in contact, and carefully deburr and polish all edges, but this is not exactly rocket science, is it? Or am I missing something else?

I know that some folks are reluctant to modify anything they just spent $$ on, but I take a pragmatic view of equipment and function. And this old dude is never gonna win any SCUBA fashion awards. Plus I like the satisfaction of making / modifying things (a dying skill, IMO.)
TTFN
-Don
 
most people aren't willing to make their own gear, if you have tools available to you, you can go get a bunch of scrap lead from a firing range, build a mold and melt the lead down and make some weight plates from that if you want, doing that you can taper the top of the plate so you can fit more in there if you needed to, make it as thick as you wanted, and all plates have some sort of holes on the sides of them for mounting stuff to, just have to get some good washers and good to go. DIY is fine, most people just don't want to go that far.
 
I was pleased to find this link on another SB thread:
Reclaimed Lead Shot - (2-25) Bags 50 Pounds FREE Freight
At $79 for 50# of shot (including delivery), it seems like a great solution. Either for filling soft weight bags, or melting down and recasting to attach to a bp. To others who haven't done things like this, it's pretty easy to do with an (outdoor!) bbq grill and old iron pot. No real need for fancy molds, if you fill a tray with damp (not wet) sand and carve out whatever shape you want. Trim rough edges with a knife or rasp. But then again I'm the sort of idiot who keeps a big honking anvil in the basement "just in case" and has heat-treated my own tools just for fun. YMMV.
 
dberry, as a DIY'er you may like this forum

http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/do-it-yourself-diy/

I don't work in metals but I know others in the forum do. Might be something helpful with current or future projects.
Thanks for showing me that forum - I think. One of the first posts I saw was from a guy looking to build a hookah air supply / compressor "on the cheap". Let's just call it evolution in action...:shakehead:
(Seriously, most of the posts were the kind of stuff I love to read. I just need to read less and dive more now.)
-Don
 
John knows his stuff. If you are a cold water diver then I would recommend the Oxcheq. As other said the wing is build like a tank and very streamlined. As others have mentioned the shell and bladder are thick and can't be rolled. If you are vacation diver then I would pick a wing that is more flexible and can be rolled. Halcyon makes a great wing but it is expensive and requires a STA. Other choices would be Dive Rite, Hollis, and maybe Hog.
 
I have an oxycheq wing and a couple of dive rites. They're both fine quality, as is halcyon and deep sea supply. I really don't think you'd be unhappy with any of them.
 
I have an 18, 30 and 40 Oxycheq. The 18 is my favourite when traveling its tiny. The 40 I don't recommend ii find it vents horribly. YMMV.

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I have an 18, 30 and 40 Oxycheq. The 18 is my favourite when traveling its tiny. The 40 I don't recommend ii find it vents horribly. YMMV.

No complaints about quality. I did however swap out the OPVs for the more robust DSS ones. I also swapped out the long (16")faux corrugated hose for shorter (12") real corrugated versions from DGX I find they sit nicer, out of the way and don't hang down like an elephants trunk.
 
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