Bonaire: Sand Dollar vs Belmar

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Hey guy's, need help! We plan on going to Bonaire in June and it seems to be narrowed down to Either The Sand Dollar Condo Resort or The Belmar Apartments. Please help w/pro's and cons. Anybody been to both? Any feedback would be great!:06:
 
I have never stayed at Belmar but the web photos look nice and considering it's operated by the Buddy Dive managment I suspect that you will get the same great service there as at Buddy. The only drawback I see is it's located very close to the airport, that late night KLM 747 may wake you on occasion.
Sand Dollar is pretty nice as well. They have a fairly new dive shop, a new waterfrount restaurant and it's located right by Lovers Ice Cream..always a plus :)
I don't think you would go wrong with either place.
 
I have been to Bonaire three times
Stayed at the Belmar twice
I toured a lot of places on Bonaire (about 20-30)
I believe that the Belmar is one of the nice properties to stay at on Bonaire

See http://www.ces.clemson.edu/ece/crb/dawson/scubareports/scubareports.htm
for my trip reports

In my opinion, the accomodations at the Belmar (the grounds, inside the apartment, the view from the room) are better than the Sand Dollar; however, I believe that
1) The house reef at the Sand Dollar is much better than Belmar
2) The location of the Sand Dollar is much better because it closer to the north side shore diving which for the most part is better than the south side diving. Also there are some restaurants and a little store that are within walking distance from the Sand Dollar.

If I go to Bonaire I will probably stay at Den Laman
http://www.denlaman.com/index800x600.html
because you staying right next to the Sand Dollar, so you have all the advantages of the Sand Dollar but you stay at a place like the Belmar

email me for details if you have other questions
 
Please help with pros/cons

We stayed at Belmar last June. It was a pretty nice time to be there, although a little hot. Only rained one time during the week. Great unobstructed sunsets from your patio - the kind you want to film. I think I saw the "green flash" once.

Sand Dollar has the better house reef - it's the Bari Reef divesite. Belmar has their house reef, a nice dive but nowhere near the fish/animal life. Belmar lights their dive dock u/w at night, not sure about Bari.

Belmar is certainly newer. Maybe as much as 10-15 years newer. As is typical on Bonaire there is only a/c in the bedrooms at Belmar. And it only works when the door to your bedroom is closed and the room is occupied. Kind of odd till you get used to it.

Sand Dollar has a small beach, BelMar has none as it sits on a small cliff. The nearest beach to Belmar is the Bachelor's Beach dive site a few hundred yards to the north.

If you have small kids, Belmar may not be such a great idea, it's about 20' from your patio to the pool - no fence around the pool, another 20' to a cliff and a 15' drop to the rocks/water on either side of the stairs that go to the dive dock.

No food near BelMar except for a small restaurant just a few blocks south. Mostly a breakfast/lunch kind of place. Everything else is a drive around the lagoon to either the Plaza resort or a little further to Kralendijk - 5 minutes away.

BelMar is now the 2nd Buddy dive location. Unless it's recently changed, this means that any boat diving you do with them you'll have to drive about 15 min. up to Buddy's to catch the boat. The website sort of alludes to Buddy's diveboats picking up at their boat dock there, but I think that's only for charters.

Buddy's has the only drive-thru tank operation on the island, I assume if you're a BelMar guest you can use it also when diving in the north. Although BelMar makes it really easy to get tanks, they have a 24/7 gated pickup area just off the road at the south end of the property. We found it easiest to just temporarily park there while getting tanks/using their nitrox analyzer. And since Belmar sits right on the main road to all the south dive sites, the Hooker, Salt Pier, Angel City etc. it's really convenient to change tanks as you drive by.

At BelMar if you have a ground floor unit, they have a closet for your dive gear outside your back door. Upstairs units use lockers near the dive shop. Parking at Belmar is just off the road and really tight, you literally put your trucks front bumper into the bushes to get far enough off the road. But there's no traffic on the road so it's not really an issue.

Bonaire Dive/Adventure has their lockers along the dock which is a slightly farther walk back to your vehicle if in the Sand Dollar lot. You can however get quite a bit closer by driving out the Sand Dollar parking lot and then into the next driveway to the south which is for BD&A. Otherwise it's probably 50 yds. from the farthest south point of the Sand Dollar lot to the BD&A facilities.

BD&A offers more non-diving activities. There's even a couple of naturalists working there since Bari Reef is an official REEF fish survey site. It's supposed to be the #1 site in the Caribbean for diversity of fish species. Also Fisheye Photo is co-located there if you're wanting to do any photography/courses.

Herman may have been thinking of Port Bonaire while discussing the KLM situation in his post. It sits right under the flightpath. We left the windows and doors open most of the week at BelMar and never heard a plane, it's pretty far south of the airport and quiet at night, except for the occasional donkey noises from the sanctuary nearby.

Except for the restaurant at Den Laman to the south of BD&A, both properties are about as far away from food in Kralendijk. The little plaza just past the rotary south of Sand Dollar has Lover's, a small market, the Chat/Browse internet cafe. and there's a bank with atm next to it. Nothing like that near Belmar, the nearest is in Kralendijk. Also you can eat at Capt. Don's - practically next door to Sand Dollar. They have a good brick oven pizza place there besides their outdoor restaurant - which although slightly Americanized has a great view of the tarpon feeding in the lights at night. Not sure if Buddy's next door to them has a restaurant but I'd guess they do.

The staff at BelMar is incredibly helpful and friendly. I have no experience with SD. in that regard.

hth,
 
Thanks guy's you have all been a great help with in depth info! I think the Sand Dollar has it. The house reef and the all important FOOD are definitely priorities! Does anybody know app. how far the surface swim is out to the bouys at the house reefs(assuming they have buoys) at these two sites? And do either of these have other nav aids for example: submerged ropes, obvious underwater structures,posted maps etc.. Also any boat traffic involved? Will be diving with 13 yr old son and possibly 15yr old daughter and we all are newbies. My son and I with 17 dives to date and my daughter not yet certified will be trying a discover diving here in a pool next week. Also Steve you pointed out the hot weather in June, we are not neccasarily locked in to June have you ever been there at spring break in April? Is it very crowded then ?
Ed
 
There are some mooring buoys at SD but the way we enter all of the sites on Bonaire is to just drop down as soon as the water is 5 or 6 ft and follow the bottom. The normal profile of the reefs on Bonaire are they drop slowly from the shore to around 30 ft then take a sharp drop to much deeper water- 80 to over 300 ft depending on where on the island you are. The swim from shore to the drop-off varies from a few yards to 150 or more. The distance around SD is in the 50 yd range, a very easy swim. By following the reef contour you can slowly descend getting your buoyancy correct and on the return use it as a long gradual safety stop. Don't be too hasty to pass over the shallows, there are loads of fish and other animals in the coral rubble if you take the time to look. I spend at least 15 or 20 minutes at the end of most dives in 10-15 ft of water watching the fish.

Bonaire navigation is every easy. Before descending take a compass reading straight off shore, descend and follow that heading until you see find something you can identify from a little distance. I like to find something in 15 to 25 ft of water. An odd coral head, mooring buoy or some other unique feature and NOTE THE EXACT DEPTH, the depth is the key. This will be your exit marker. After you have found your exit marker continue on the same course until you reach the drop-off, you will be in 30- 35 ft of water. Determine which way the current is heading and head up current following the drop-off, the depth is up to you but be careful as you can very easily drop a lot deeper than you intend (been there, done that). Turn at your predetermined time/pressure and follow the drop-off back. About 1/2 way back start easing away from the drop-off into shallower water until you get back to the exact depth of your exit marker. Remember that you are now going with the current so the time will be a good bit less otherwise you will overshoot your marker. The depth on Bonaire reefs is very predictable so if you are at the same depth as your exit marker you will come with in a few yards of it. Make it a game to see who sees it first. When you find the marker, take the reciprocal course back to the entry point. Depending on air, we usually hang around the exit marker for a while looking for small stuff and do a very slow swim to the exit. This makes a very long and enjoyable safety stop.

Boat traffic is not much of a concern. Boats are required to idle out to deep water before speeding up and no boats come close to shore unless they are docking. The captains are very aware that there are divers in the area and watch closely. That said, it’s still a good idea to either be on the surface or under deep enough you are out of harms way.
 
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Thanks guy's you have all been a great help with in depth info! I think the Sand Dollar has it. The house reef and the all important FOOD are definitely priorities! Does anybody know app. how far the surface swim is out to the bouys at the house reefs(assuming they have buoys) at these two sites? And do either of these have other nav aids for example: submerged ropes, obvious underwater structures,posted maps etc.. Also any boat traffic involved? Will be diving with 13 yr old son and possibly 15yr old daughter and we all are newbies. My son and I with 17 dives to date and my daughter not yet certified will be trying a discover diving here in a pool next week. Also Steve you pointed out the hot weather in June, we are not neccasarily locked in to June have you ever been there at spring break in April? Is it very crowded then ?
Ed
PM sent.
 
OK guy's I know this is an equipment question but everyone say's to get hard soled booties for Bonaire, so... What is a good brand ? Also my son dives w/full foot fins and neoprene socks so I guess I have to get him open heel fins to accomadate the booties,right, goes without saying???
 
I don't have a particular brand, just make sure the soles are real sturdy. The ones that look more like socks with rubber on the bottom don't measure up. You can always rent some fins for the week, if you don't want to buy them.
 

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