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scubadada,

From the Grace Bay Car Rental (T&C) FAQ questions page: "The islands are safe but if you go to a secluded beach or snorkeling with your car take the precaution of leaving the car unlocked with the front windows rolled down enough that even the dumbest of petty thieves can see the car is available for them to check out without breaking the glass. Obviously do not leave any valuables in the car or trunk.questions page"
 
scubadada,

From the Grace Bay Car Rental (T&C) FAQ questions page: "The islands are safe but if you go to a secluded beach or snorkeling with your car take the precaution of leaving the car unlocked with the front windows rolled down enough that even the dumbest of petty thieves can see the car is available for them to check out without breaking the glass. Obviously do not leave any valuables in the car or trunk.questions page"

So, if the windows are up and the doors are locked, they have to break the windows to make sure there is nothing of value to steal. Sorry but this is f....d up. Thanks for the reference to the additional island.
 
scubadada,

From the Grace Bay Car Rental (T&C) FAQ questions page: "The islands are safe but if you go to a secluded beach or snorkeling with your car take the precaution of leaving the car unlocked with the front windows rolled down enough that even the dumbest of petty thieves can see the car is available for them to check out without breaking the glass. Obviously do not leave any valuables in the car or trunk.questions page"


Sounds like Grace Bay Car Rental is exploring the highly successful car rental tactics of Bonaire, sounds like only a suggestion at this time, denying customers basic security features, perhaps they will escalate it if they don't receive any push back and go full Bonaire and shirk financial responsibility onto the customer too. Can't wait to see what is next, "Please do not drive the vehicle for more than 20 minutes per day as we want to keep the wear and tear on our rental car engines to a minimum."

Wonder if among the car rental agencies they have coined any terms for Bonaire's laughable anti-consumer policies. I can just see two rental car owners at a cocktail party at a convention in Las Vegas laughing about wish we could 'Bonaire' people in Cleveland!"
 
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I wish I had kept the emails I got back from dive ops on GC. Every one said solo was prohibited on GC and one even threatened me that if I tried I would be found out and banned from diving across the entire island. Every shop would get my name, etc and I would be blacklisted.
 
By the way, Maui has a problem with theft from rental vehicles at snorkeling sites too.

The windows down policy is not new in T&C. I remembered seeing it years ago. We discussed it in a previous thread on crime in Bonaire.
 
Glad you brought that up. Bonaire is the only place I've been to where the car rental company makes the renter responsible for damage to the vehicle if you use the vehicles security features. If you lock your car and a thief breaks the window you're responsible for the cost of the repairs. Every rental agency I've been in has a huge sign behind the counter on the wall and on the counter saying so. The rental agencies are so sick of fixing their own cars from all the petty theft damage that the abnormal is the new normal :banghead:
Actually, there is nothing new about it and the procedure has worked quite to the benefit of divers. If you observe the recommendations, the worst (and even this is rare) one is likely to suffer is loss of old flip-flops, an old T shirt or a water bottle. Very, very rarely do more serious thefts (e.g., tires) occur.

My wife and I have owned a condo unit at Sand Dollar for 6 yrs. We have been visiting for 5-6 wks/yr beginning the week after our purchase. We frequently gather socially with other owners (and guests, for that matter) on the waterfront for drinks and conversation. Never, in our interval of ownership have I heard a scary story about someone staying a Sand Dollar who was the victim of criminal activity. I have heard a very few stories about folks who returned to the truck from a dive to find that someone had rummaged through the items left in the truck bed. Someone tried to break into a Sand Dollar unit a couple of years ago during a holiday parade, but was scared away. On another occasion, someone stole a truck at night from a Sand Dollar parking space, but was discovered by security and chased away, leaving his bicycle behind. Those are the only two such instances, AFAIK, in the last 6 yrs.

In other words, everyone knows there is crime on Bonaire, but it has never reached a level that caused me to worry. Certainly, nothing like one would find in many parts of NYC (where I had things stolen from a locked car) or Rome (where I was pick-pocketed right out of a zipped and pinned fanny pack being held on my my belly) or Paris (where my wife had her wallet plucked out of her purse), or East Setauket, NY (on Long Island) where my wife's legal briefcase was taken from our car one night while it was parked in our driveway then dumped in the neighbor's lawn.
 
We were on Provo a couple of years ago and we rented a car from Grace Bay Car Rental for a week before we boarded a liveaboard, and again for a couple of days after getting off of the liveaboard. (They are a great car rental operation and I highly recommend them.)

They never suggested that we leave the cars unlocked with the windows rolled down and with nothing of value inside. Nor were we ever told that we would be financially responsible for the damages if the car was burglarized, unlike Bonaire.

The FAQ sounds more like a suggestion rather than a rule - unless there have been some major changes recently.
 
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I don't understand why the big deal over leaving the truck unlocked with the window down... Or you what to leave expensive stuff in the truck ? If you don't leave anything in the truck, Why lock the doors? I drove many convertibles in my life and I never locked the doors... Because if you did, They cut the top and stole the radio... Leave it unlocked and they just stole the radio... It was cheaper that way...

Jim...
 
the procedure has worked quite to the benefit of divers. If you observe the recommendations, the worst (and even this is rare) one is likely to suffer is loss of old flip-flops, an old T shirt or a water bottle. Very, very rarely do more serious thefts (e.g., tires) occur.

I would not label the denial of enjoying even the simplest of pleasures such as being able to have a change of clothes, a sandwich, or cold bottle of pop in your car when shore diving as a benefit. The brainwashing is strong on this subject
 
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