Bill OReilly

[Skull]

The beautiful irony in the Mexico-United States immigration policy is we get their most ambitious workers ...they get to keep the welfare cases. We get to buy their land at a discount, develope it and then sell it back to the ones who make a few bucks up here.

But here's the real kicker...most of you folks get to have your lawn mowed for 45 bucks a month, your sewer cleaned for 45 bucks, dinner for two served for 45 bucks, your muffler fixed for 45 bucks ...

Wait till the bill shows up for Medicare and Social Security ...and thats just from the slow breathers retiring now and fixing to retire over the next 10 years ....better get more Mexicans signed up to pay the taxes ...ha ha ha !

 

[Thalassamania]

AH buddy, you are deft man if you think that people did not pick up on your UU job, and who it was impying......
see if you can figure out mine.......

I fully expected everyone to understand it, what good would it be else?

 

[SteveDiver]

Over the weekend, illegal aliens once again took to the streets
in Los Angeles demanding "Amnesty Now." And today, President
Bush is touring the border to promote his "Z-Amnesty" plan.

Meanwhile, fallout continues from the illegal alien drunk who
killed two teens in Virginia Beach. If you missed the
O'Reilly/Geraldo segment.

I’ve decided to list for you "Resources" and "Today's Actions" below.

+ + Today’s Actions

Action #1 -- Let the President know that his new amnesty
proposal is unacceptable!

Call the White House and your two Senators
and say you oppose Bush's "Z-Visa/Amnesty"
plan.

White House: 202-456-1111, 202-456-1414
Senate Switchboard: 202-224-3121

 

[JackSpearo]

sorry skull but illegal immigrants don't pay in more than they cost...

 

[Cacia]

The beautiful irony in the Mexico-United States immigration policy is we get their most ambitious workers ...they get to keep the welfare cases. We get to buy their land at a discount, develope it and then sell it back to the ones who make a few bucks up here.

But here's the real kicker...most of you folks get to have your lawn mowed for 45 bucks a month, your sewer cleaned for 45 bucks, dinner for two served for 45 bucks, your muffler fixed for 45 bucks ...

Wait till the bill shows up for Medicare and Social Security ...and thats just from the slow breathers retiring now and fixing to retire over the next 10 years ....better get more Mexicans signed up to pay the taxes ...ha ha ha !

I think I agree with this.

sorry skull but illegal immigrants don't pay in more than they cost...

do we really know this? convince me. I've never seen any numbers reflecting what our food would cost if unionized Americans were doing that same work.

I'm not sure where the line is in this thread, but maybe the economics is okay?

 

[dlndavid]

do we really know this? convince me. I've never seen any numbers reflecting what our food would cost if unionized Americans were doing that same work.

I'm not sure where the line is in this thread, but maybe the economics is okay?

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html#Complex
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55135

 

[BKP]

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html#Complex
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55135

Interesting study...

Facts can be such a bother...

 

[H2Andy]

well, i'm not exactly sure where they are getting their figures from. they vaguely reference the "census bureau" but don't really provide any figures

i don't think anyone really knows how much in federal taxes illegals pay ... for obvious reasons (duh)

but federal taxes paid is not the economy. the economy is how much someone contributes to the overall wealth after his "earnings" are deducted.

and by that standard, illegals contribute more than their share to the economy, by serving as cheap labor. they create wealth for others, at different levels (everyone who saves money or makes money off their labor up the chain gets to pay more taxes due to more wealth)

if you go by that standard, anyone who pays less than $15,000 in annual taxes is a leach on the US economy.

those sites, by the way, are highly biased against illegals, and i would not trust their figures without independent verification ... which they fail to do

 

[Cacia]

the economy is how much someone contributes to the overall wealth after his "earnings" are deducted.

hell-O.

when you say "even the ____________s get it"

...thats why. they have a much better handle on economics.

I am still waiting to hear where we will get workers for the years ahead. We are not going to suddenly start having five kids again, geez most carreer women can barely beat the clock and eek out one or two "replacements".

Put the racial/class stuff aside and just look at the numbers of what we have going on down the road. I am surprised Japan has not figured out a way to "come and get them".

Perhaps our proximity to Mexico is actually a resource if we took a closer fresh look. I do acklowledge huge problems, but thats why guest worker non-adversarial system would make sense. Usually, what's good for "them" is good for us.

 

[BKP]

...
those sites, by the way, are highly biased against illegals, and i would not trust their figures without independent verification ... which they fail to do

Actually, that site is pro immigration (just not "pro-invasion"):

The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is a nonpartisan, non-profit research organization and was founded in 1985. Its director is Mark Krikorian. As a 501(c)(3) organization, the CIS is not permitted to advocate for any political position on the question of immigration.



Its mission statement states:

It is the Center's mission to expand the base of public knowledge and understanding of the need for an immigration policy that gives first concern to the broad national interest. The Center is animated by a pro-immigrant, low-immigration vision which seeks fewer immigrants but a warmer welcome for those admitted.[1]



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The CIS publishes books, reports, and white papers on immigration policy. These analyses address issues such as immigrant voting and electoral redistricting, impacts on low-wage and high-skilled workers, and the environmental consequences of immigration.
According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, CIS was founded and funded by John Tanton as an offshoot of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR)