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I am trying to learn how to snorkel. The other day I was trying to go one or two meters underwater and swim around as much as possible while holding my breath.

But I could not really do that equalize thing, at all. How do you do it while holding your breath? Before I tried scuba one time and i equalized while exhaling and opening my jaw or something. I forget exactly, I think it wasn't too easy then either but I did scuba about 10 meters down or so.

Also, it seemed like after a while, water had gotten into my ears, in such a way, that just dipping my head slightly into the water made me feel pressure immediately.

I wiggled my ears to try and get the water out and I did a few more underwater swims. But soon went back to the boat.

Any advice on what to do? Or you can point me towards any learning materials.
 
It get's better with practice.
One thing that helped me initially was to clear before my head even went in the wart (squeeze nose and put just enough pressure to feel it in the ears) then I'd repeat the process almost as soon as I was under the water. Big key is to clear before you feel it, if you feel it there's probably too much pressure to clear already.
Sorry don't know of any good resources.
 
tomyum:
But I could not really do that equalize thing, at all. How do you do it while holding your breath?

The principles are the same free diving or on SCUBA.

To prevent a squeeze, which can cause barotaruma (pressure injury); it is necessary to equalize the pressure in the middle ear. The Eustachian tube connects the middle ear to the throat and makes equalization possible. The Eustachian tube is normally closed and must be opened to allow air to flow into and out of the middle ear. The Eustachian tube varies greatly among individuals. Factors that affect your ability to equalize the middle ear include partial obstructions, width, angle and shape of the Eustachian tube.

A number of methods exist which allow you to open your Eustachian tubes and equalize your ears. Equalizing the ears is frequently, although incorrectly, referred to as “clearing.”

The most common method of equalization is the Valsalva Maneuver. Named for Antonio Valsalva, this technique involves pinching off the nostrils and blowing gently into the nose. Never blow forcefully while attempting this method as a too forceful Valsalva Maneuver can result in the rupture of the eardrum, round window or oval window. This will usually result in immediate vertigo and hearing loss, which can be permanent.

The Frenzel Maneuver was named for developer, Herman Frenzel of the Luftwaffe in World War II. This method is preformed by closing off the vocal cords, pinching the nostrils and an effort is made to make a "guh" sound.

The Toynbee Maneuver is simply pinching of the nostrils while swallowing.

Beance Tubaire Voluntaire (BTV) or Voluntary Tubal Opening is the preferred method of equalization once mastered. It feels very much like a yawn and a difference in tonal quality of sounds will be noticed when successful. The muscles of the upper throat are used to pull open the Eustachian tube.

You should employ equalization techniques immediately upon descent and continue them regularly on descent. If any pain is experienced, you should ascend until all pain disappears and begin again.

Often divers find it useful to chew gum or eat foods such as apples or carrots prior to diving. You should not attempt to chew gum or eat while diving. Another equalization technique divers find helpful is to gently massage the area under the ear, just behind the jaw. This gentle massage is most effective when used in conjunction with one of the other equalization techniques mentioned above.

If you are unable to equalize ear pressure, it is possible to rupture the eardrum, round window or oval window. This will usually result in immediate vertigo and hearing loss, which can be permanent. If you are unable to equalize, you should abort the dive.

Reverse blocks are also fairly common in the middle ears.

The use of earplugs will create an air space in the outer ear that you will be unable to equalize. This can result in injury so you should never dive wearing non-vented earplugs.

Another air space subject to squeeze on descent is the air space intentionally put in front of the diver’s eyes. The pressure in the mask must also be equalized, fortunately this is very easy to accomplish by simply exhaling a small amount of air into the mask through the nose. Failure to do so will result in mask squeeze. A mask squeeze can cause bruising of the soft tissues of the face covered by the mask as well as ruptured blood vessels in the eyes. Swim goggles should never be used when diving as they can easily cause injury to you eyes.
 
Ok, thank you for the info.

I googled and found the original article here

faculty.washington.edu/ekay/MEbaro.html
 
The principles are the same free diving or on SCUBA.

To prevent a squeeze, which can cause barotaruma (pressure injury); it is necessary to equalize the pressure in the middle ear. The Eustachian tube connects the middle ear to the throat and makes equalization possible. The Eustachian tube is normally closed and must be opened to allow air to flow into and out of the middle ear. The Eustachian tube varies greatly among individuals. Factors that affect your ability to equalize the middle ear include partial obstructions, width, angle and shape of the Eustachian tube.

A number of methods exist which allow you to open your Eustachian tubes and equalize your ears. Equalizing the ears is frequently, although incorrectly, referred to as “clearing.”

The most common method of equalization is the Valsalva Maneuver. Named for Antonio Valsalva, this technique involves pinching off the nostrils and blowing gently into the nose. Never blow forcefully while attempting this method as a too forceful Valsalva Maneuver can result in the rupture of the eardrum, round window or oval window. This will usually result in immediate vertigo and hearing loss, which can be permanent.

The Frenzel Maneuver was named for developer, Herman Frenzel of the Luftwaffe in World War II. This method is preformed by closing off the vocal cords, pinching the nostrils and an effort is made to make a "guh" sound.

The Toynbee Maneuver is simply pinching of the nostrils while swallowing.

Beance Tubaire Voluntaire (BTV) or Voluntary Tubal Opening is the preferred method of equalization once mastered. It feels very much like a yawn and a difference in tonal quality of sounds will be noticed when successful. The muscles of the upper throat are used to pull open the Eustachian tube.

You should employ equalization techniques immediately upon descent and continue them regularly on descent. If any pain is experienced, you should ascend until all pain disappears and begin again.

Often divers find it useful to chew gum or eat foods such as apples or carrots prior to diving. You should not attempt to chew gum or eat while diving. Another equalization technique divers find helpful is to gently massage the area under the ear, just behind the jaw. This gentle massage is most effective when used in conjunction with one of the other equalization techniques mentioned above.

If you are unable to equalize ear pressure, it is possible to rupture the eardrum, round window or oval window. This will usually result in immediate vertigo and hearing loss, which can be permanent. If you are unable to equalize, you should abort the dive.

Reverse blocks are also fairly common in the middle ears.

The use of earplugs will create an air space in the outer ear that you will be unable to equalize. This can result in injury so you should never dive wearing non-vented earplugs.

Another air space subject to squeeze on descent is the air space intentionally put in front of the diver’s eyes. The pressure in the mask must also be equalized, fortunately this is very easy to accomplish by simply exhaling a small amount of air into the mask through the nose. Failure to do so will result in mask squeeze. A mask squeeze can cause bruising of the soft tissues of the face covered by the mask as well as ruptured blood vessels in the eyes. Swim goggles should never be used when diving as they can easily cause injury to you eyes.


Good post, though I didn't really understand what the prefered method was.

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Beance Tubaire Voluntaire (BTV) or Voluntary Tubal Opening is the preferred method of equalization once mastered. It feels very much like a yawn and a difference in tonal quality of sounds will be noticed when successful. The muscles of the upper throat are used to pull open the Eustachian tube.
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This means you pinch the nose and swallow?
 
Ok, thank you for the info.

I googled and found the original article here

faculty.washington.edu/ekay/MEbaro.html

I've read it too now. So many ways to equalize...
 
Beance Tubaire Voluntaire (BTV) or Voluntary Tubal Opening is the preferred method of equalization once mastered. It feels very much like a yawn and a difference in tonal quality of sounds will be noticed when successful. The muscles of the upper throat are used to pull open the Eustachian tube.
"

This means you pinch the nose and swallow?

No; there is no nose pinching required with this technique. HOWEVER, the articles I've read say that only a relatively small proportion of divers can learn to do this, and it may be somewhat dependent on your anatomy. I can't do it, although I keep trying to learn.

HERE is what I thought was a pretty good article on equalization techniques, to add to Walter's excellent post.
 
JohnniG:
This means you pinch the nose and swallow?

We have muscles around the Eustachian tubes that allows us to open them. All one has to do to equalize the pressure in our middle ears is to open the Eustachian tubes. I don't know if it's like curling your tongue or raising one eyebrow in that some folks can never learn the skills because they genetically do not have the tools to do it. That may be the case or it may be that many folks have simply not learned. I have fairly good luck teaching Voluntary Tubal Opening, but I'm not 100% successful.
 
Practice, definitely!!! In terms of execution, Valsalva and Frenzel are the easiest(my op.), although I use a Frenzel/Toynbee combo. When first learning as a kid, I recall myself walking around for days, practicing, weeks before we even went to the Mediterrenean. It becomes much easier to focus on an efficient descent, when you don't have to worry about executing a successful eq., after all, your main goal is to be relaxed and enjoy your dive, not to fight physics. Same goes for breathholding, I love apnea walking, static apnea, and usually get into an exercise routine a couple of weeks before my trip, so when we get there, I'm ready.
 
walter, you say i just have to open the Eustachian tubes.

but it seems to me, like there are two different actions i can take, lower the pressure or increase

1. suck in my ear drums, by opening my jaw and swallowing (easy for me)

2. push the ear drums out, by blowing my nose while it's pinched. (not as comfortable)
 

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