Gentlemen,
I have used the search function but could not get any data from user on this unit.
May I bother anyone who knows the performance of the unit to advice me please, thank you.
I will be getting my Bauer Mariner 200 soon with P41 filter system upgrade instead of the P31. Being in the tropics ( Jakarta - Indonesia ) with ambient temperature an easy 30*Celsius or hotter, the speed of filter cartridge consumption to be in line with Bauer reccomendation is really making air fill expensive.
I don't want additional filters like those from Lawrence Factor because being slaved to imported supply is not really good in the long run. If I can trade after market filter consumable cost for hardware cost and electricity cost, it will be easier for me.
I understand how a compressor work and I do my own repair too, however I am lacking the expertise like some members here and need some in depth information on the Bauer AIR-KOOL.
Water moisture is my number one enemy for one being based in the tropics.
The Bauer Air-Kool cools incoming air output from the aftercooler to the final oil/water separator. Supposedly it can cool to between 2 - 8 * Celsius.
Bauer table indicated at ambient temperature of 30 Celcius, the final separator temperature can hit 44 Celsius. The air temperature output at the after-cooler pipes is not mentioned, I believe its hotter than that.
I know the Air-Kool works by cooling the air to get better water moisture removal.
Its like a 1HP airconditioner that cools air pipes instead of air.
My questions are :
#01. Sudden cold from hot. Will the air pipe experiencing such thermal stress , can last ?
My old Bauer Mariner, the output of the 1st stage piston, the air pipe coupling usually leaks after some years of heavy use. I may be wrong but I suspect this is because the pipe which is made of aluminum and the fitting/coupling at the 1st stage cylinder head being steel, may have different expansion rate and overtime the aluminum pipe which has that bullet like compression ring around its outer diameter gets worn out, and hence the small leak occuring.
02. Bauer claim in ambient temperature of 35* Celsius, my filter life will last about 6 fold ( based on a 440 Liter per minute unit ) because of the massive water moisture reduction into the final oil/water separator. A P41 contains about 812 gram of molecular seive, at 20% absorbtion it can take 162 grams of water. For a Mariner with 200 liter output and 35*Celsius ambient temperature, final separator temperature of 49 *Celsius, filter table stated 34 hours filter life time.
My #2 question is :
Is 6 fold a realistic figure ?. Sorry, I do not know how to calculate the dew point and so on.
My #3 question is :
Assuming that a 6 fold increase of filter life due to reduced water moisture is possible, will it be fair for me to then worry more of of oil accumulation and C0 accumulation ?
I am based in Jakarta, and the air quality is nothing to be proud of. CO is a big worry for me if I pushed the filter life 6 fold because it will exceed by far the life table even if supposedly I am in a location with 10*C ambient temperature where the filter life table is giving 156 hours as the high side ( 4.59 fold ). My table starts only at 10* Celsius. The older table shows 3.44 times filter life correction for 0* Celsius ambient compared to 30* Celsius ambient for a P21 filter system.
Assuming my compressor is a virgin, using Bauer synthetic oil with very little oil burn and etc etc, I am still operating it in 30* Celsius ambient air. So, whatever the negatives towards the oil at that high ambient temperature, I will get it.
My question #4 ( sorry, so much questions ) :
Will it be fair and safer to assume that the amount of activated carbon to catch hydrocarbon residue and the hopcalite ( if I order a P41 cartridge with C0 removal capability ) for CO capture, in a P41 filter system will not exceed by far the designed calculation of total air filtered assuming in ambient temperature of 0* Celsius. I do not know Bauer safety factor in say ....preparing filter capacity for aging compressor and so on. I mean to say is, I feel uncomfortable if I blindly follow even a 4 fold increase of filter life purely from the stand point of point of water moisture only. If I do get the Air Kool, I intend to extend filter life by no more than 3.5 fold at the most. 3 fold maybe be my target.
The Air-Kool cost US$3,000 ( the Air-Kool flier/catalog placed a Euro 2,000 as calculation benchmark, I hope that's the highest retail price ). It consume 800 watt of power and I assumed 15,000 hours life on the Air-Kool unit. I usually use 20,000 hours max for HVAC equipment life. I am looking at US$0.05 for cost of power and US$0.05 for Air-Kool life per 1 fill of 80CF tank. I use conservative 4 tanks per hour fill rate, not 4.8 tanks from a typical 200 liter/minute Mariner.
My last calculation I recalled US$0.60 ( high side ) per air fill of 80CF tank for filter cartridge cost for a P41 at ambient temperature of 30 * Celsius. At three fold filter catridge life, it will be down to US$0.20 and plus that 10 cents extra for Air-Kool.
So, a US$0.30 savings per tank will pay the Air-Kool purchase ( assumed US$3,000 ) in 10,000 air fills or 2,500 hours of operation. Above this hours, I save money.
Not that I do not trust Bauer calculation, I rather get input from experienced compressor users here too, as second realistic opinion.
Thank you very much Gentlemen. Awaiting your kind advice.
Regards,
Iya
I have used the search function but could not get any data from user on this unit.
May I bother anyone who knows the performance of the unit to advice me please, thank you.
I will be getting my Bauer Mariner 200 soon with P41 filter system upgrade instead of the P31. Being in the tropics ( Jakarta - Indonesia ) with ambient temperature an easy 30*Celsius or hotter, the speed of filter cartridge consumption to be in line with Bauer reccomendation is really making air fill expensive.
I don't want additional filters like those from Lawrence Factor because being slaved to imported supply is not really good in the long run. If I can trade after market filter consumable cost for hardware cost and electricity cost, it will be easier for me.
I understand how a compressor work and I do my own repair too, however I am lacking the expertise like some members here and need some in depth information on the Bauer AIR-KOOL.
Water moisture is my number one enemy for one being based in the tropics.
The Bauer Air-Kool cools incoming air output from the aftercooler to the final oil/water separator. Supposedly it can cool to between 2 - 8 * Celsius.
Bauer table indicated at ambient temperature of 30 Celcius, the final separator temperature can hit 44 Celsius. The air temperature output at the after-cooler pipes is not mentioned, I believe its hotter than that.
I know the Air-Kool works by cooling the air to get better water moisture removal.
Its like a 1HP airconditioner that cools air pipes instead of air.
My questions are :
#01. Sudden cold from hot. Will the air pipe experiencing such thermal stress , can last ?
My old Bauer Mariner, the output of the 1st stage piston, the air pipe coupling usually leaks after some years of heavy use. I may be wrong but I suspect this is because the pipe which is made of aluminum and the fitting/coupling at the 1st stage cylinder head being steel, may have different expansion rate and overtime the aluminum pipe which has that bullet like compression ring around its outer diameter gets worn out, and hence the small leak occuring.
02. Bauer claim in ambient temperature of 35* Celsius, my filter life will last about 6 fold ( based on a 440 Liter per minute unit ) because of the massive water moisture reduction into the final oil/water separator. A P41 contains about 812 gram of molecular seive, at 20% absorbtion it can take 162 grams of water. For a Mariner with 200 liter output and 35*Celsius ambient temperature, final separator temperature of 49 *Celsius, filter table stated 34 hours filter life time.
My #2 question is :
Is 6 fold a realistic figure ?. Sorry, I do not know how to calculate the dew point and so on.
My #3 question is :
Assuming that a 6 fold increase of filter life due to reduced water moisture is possible, will it be fair for me to then worry more of of oil accumulation and C0 accumulation ?
I am based in Jakarta, and the air quality is nothing to be proud of. CO is a big worry for me if I pushed the filter life 6 fold because it will exceed by far the life table even if supposedly I am in a location with 10*C ambient temperature where the filter life table is giving 156 hours as the high side ( 4.59 fold ). My table starts only at 10* Celsius. The older table shows 3.44 times filter life correction for 0* Celsius ambient compared to 30* Celsius ambient for a P21 filter system.
Assuming my compressor is a virgin, using Bauer synthetic oil with very little oil burn and etc etc, I am still operating it in 30* Celsius ambient air. So, whatever the negatives towards the oil at that high ambient temperature, I will get it.
My question #4 ( sorry, so much questions ) :
Will it be fair and safer to assume that the amount of activated carbon to catch hydrocarbon residue and the hopcalite ( if I order a P41 cartridge with C0 removal capability ) for CO capture, in a P41 filter system will not exceed by far the designed calculation of total air filtered assuming in ambient temperature of 0* Celsius. I do not know Bauer safety factor in say ....preparing filter capacity for aging compressor and so on. I mean to say is, I feel uncomfortable if I blindly follow even a 4 fold increase of filter life purely from the stand point of point of water moisture only. If I do get the Air Kool, I intend to extend filter life by no more than 3.5 fold at the most. 3 fold maybe be my target.
The Air-Kool cost US$3,000 ( the Air-Kool flier/catalog placed a Euro 2,000 as calculation benchmark, I hope that's the highest retail price ). It consume 800 watt of power and I assumed 15,000 hours life on the Air-Kool unit. I usually use 20,000 hours max for HVAC equipment life. I am looking at US$0.05 for cost of power and US$0.05 for Air-Kool life per 1 fill of 80CF tank. I use conservative 4 tanks per hour fill rate, not 4.8 tanks from a typical 200 liter/minute Mariner.
My last calculation I recalled US$0.60 ( high side ) per air fill of 80CF tank for filter cartridge cost for a P41 at ambient temperature of 30 * Celsius. At three fold filter catridge life, it will be down to US$0.20 and plus that 10 cents extra for Air-Kool.
So, a US$0.30 savings per tank will pay the Air-Kool purchase ( assumed US$3,000 ) in 10,000 air fills or 2,500 hours of operation. Above this hours, I save money.
Not that I do not trust Bauer calculation, I rather get input from experienced compressor users here too, as second realistic opinion.
Thank you very much Gentlemen. Awaiting your kind advice.
Regards,
Iya