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fire_diver

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Well, I rolled back to my own home after a week on a cruise ship in the western caribbean. I was fine last night, but now the world is still rocking. I have come away with mixed feelings about the diving on this trip. After rough seas on day 1, the diving was cancelled at Key West. Don't blame them either, the water looked like milk when we pulled in. Day 2 saw even worse seas. My stateroom was at least 30ft off the water and I had waves almost even with my window. After arriving at Grand Cayman, we were promptly turned around by the harbor master as the conditions were too rough to allow tendering. 7 total cruise ships left were turned away then. That must suck for their local economy! Finally we had a nice time on the way to Cozumel, where I actually got to dive!! But here is where I feel conflicted as well.

The cruise ship had booked the dive through Sand Dollar. It was a good boat, with only 8 divers so I didnt feel like it was a "cattle boat". The crew were very friendly, helpful, and proffesional. But it was a 'baby sitting' dive. We were told NOT to go below 80 feet, so all I got to do was look over the edge of the wall, not see any of the great stuff down it. I only got a max depth of 77fsw. The shallow reefs we did dive had evidence of a lot of damage. Broken corral was scattered all over the bottom. We were also limited on our bottom time.

The second dive I maxed out my depth at 46FSW, but we were limited by the DM to bottom time again. So when the DM signaled to go the the safety stop, I still had half a tank of air and plenty of nitrogen room on my computer. The only thing sadder than ending my dive then, was that I had burned through my 36 exposures of film FAST. I found several anemanes (SP?) that would have made great macro shots, but my film was full of corrals, sponges, fish, and a green turtle, not to mention a shot of my dive buddy, and one of me :D

Despite the things I didnt like about the dive, it was still awsome. Vis had to be close to 200 foot. I didnt feel limited to how far I could see at all! The fish were awesome! It really did feel like swimming in an aquarium. The water temp was great too. I dove without a wetsuit, just my trunks and my gear, and never felt cold at all.
You members of SB helped me out too! While doing my first ever blue-water stops, the words of Uncle Pug came to mind as I tried using my depth meter to hold my stop. Yeah, I probably looked like a yoyo at first. Then I remembered someone said to watch the stuff in the water as a guide. BINGO! I knew instantly if I needed to exhale a little more or breath a bit deeper to maintain my depth. Thanks people!

SO, even though it could have been better, it was still an awesome dive, and Scuba board is definately the best place to futher your informal diving education.

PS- On the drive north through Dallas last night I scared my wife a bit when I looked over and shouted "SCUBA TOYS!!!!" LOL. I made her promise to drop me off their when she goes shopping in big D next time. :D


FD
 
Pretty good report. Sorry about the bad parts, but that happens to all of us. I don't think I have ever gone somewhere diving that something hasn't gone according to plan. At least you got to go diving. That is the best part. I bet the ship was pretty nice too. For future reference (I don't know how "cruise-savvy you are), on cruise boats, get as close to the water level as possible. If you dont need a balcony or window, get a room as close to the center of the boat as possible. That will minimize the rocking motion of the high seas.

Personally, I don't like diving on cruises. Like you said, the people they book through usually "baby sit" divers. That annoys me, but they have to assume you are all beginners as to not make the dive too advanced for beginners who also want to go on the same dive. Dive slots are limited, so the chances of you ending up on a dive with a "newbie" are high. They have to look out for them. Also, the time is limited in each port. You don't get a chance to really see what the destination has to offer. You get to see a little bit of a lot of places, when I like to see a lot of fewer places.

Glad you had a agood time though, that's the main idea.
 
You didn't mention the dive sites you did on Cozumel--my guess is you did Santa Rosa Wall and then one of the shallower sites, like Passo Del Cedral, Tormentos, or Yucab.

The previous comment about being babysat off a cruise is a good one. If you want a really good dive in Cozumel and the skills for it, you have to prepare.

All Coz dives are led by divemasters--they are required. A skilled divemaster will assess the skills of the group and lead a dive appropriately. You can have the same divemaster two days in a row on the same site and have two different experiences. If your entire group is obviously skilled, your divemaster will give you a much more thrilling experience than you will get if you have some true beginners with buoancy problems.

If you ever get there again, search for the companies that are going to put you with other divers of your experience and have your reservations in place before you get there.
 
Sorry, I did forget to mention the sites. We dove at "Las Palmas" on dive one and "Paradise" on dive two. I was a bit shocked that the dives were only a couple hundred yards off the shore. I expected it would be father out. Oh well, that's what I get for 'thinking.' LOL

I didnt mind being 'led' by the DM, I was just peeved at being to when to get out of the water or how deep to go. My SAC for that dive .40, but it might as well have been 1 for the time allowed under water.

I did give thought to booking the dives on my own, but I'm glad I didn't. I would have been out a lot of money for the first 2 cancelled dives. By doing it through the cruise ship I at least got my money back.

Good part of all this, is that now the wife wants to fly down to Mexico or Grand Cayman and stay for a few days to a week. I should definately get some good diving out of that!
 
Unfortunately, you didn't really get to see what Cozumel has to offer. Las Palmas looks rough from Wilma, but it can be a very good dive with lots of fish. I dived it last week and saw a lot of eagle rays. I imagine Paradise looks worse as it is dived pretty much by cruiseros and students.

I hope you get back to Cozumel and hook up with a good dive shop so you can see the spectacular dive sites like Palancar and Columbia. Your cruise ship experience is not typical of Cozumel diving.
 
fire_diver:
We dove at "Las Palmas" on dive one and "Paradise" on dive two. I was a bit shocked that the dives were only a couple hundred yards off the shore. I expected it would be father out.

I'm so sorry.

In Cozumel, you usually do one of the many spectacular, deeper sites on your first dive. These usually include one of the Palancars, Santa Rosa Wall, or Columbia. You then do a surface interval and do one of the shallower sites, often one of those mentioned in my previous post.

I have occasionally done Las Palmas and Paradise as a second dive, but they are not among the usual choices. From what I understand, they were both beaten up pretty well by Wilma.

What you had may have been acceptable for a cruise ship diving experience, but I would be shocked if you would ever do those two sites as a normal two tank dive trip if you had booked a dive on your own.
 
If you ever do the cruise again try this dive ops. I found them while surfing on the internet. They are very acommodating and will work around your ships arrival.
Their boat will hold 10 divers, but will go less.

The name: Off The Wall Divers www.otwdivers.com
Dive operators name is Danny, super guy. Visit the web site.


Joe
 
boulderjohn:
I'm so sorry.
Geez, now I feel like I've been cheated.

boulderjohn:
I have occasionally done Las Palmas and Paradise as a second dive, but they are not among the usual choices. From what I understand, they were both beaten up pretty well by Wilma.

I think so. There was broken coral lying all over bottom. Only a couple soft corals to be found, and I think I saw 3 anemones. There was quite a few fish though, but no eels or octos. And I was looking into every hole and crevise I could find.

Oh well, lesson learned. I'll book on my own next time.

FD
 
Going to Cayman Brac in August I'll update everyone.............Happy Diving
 
But it was a 'baby sitting' dive. We were told NOT to go below 80 feet,

This is a common condition, most often put in place by the cruise line. The operator must agree to it to get the contract.

YMMV, and cruise line individual policies may vary substantially.
 

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