Are you in favor of legal action against SPAMers?

What would you like to see done to help stop spam?

  • Very large fines to spammers.

    Votes: 14 30.4%
  • Very large fines to the IP who allows spammers on their network.

    Votes: 6 13.0%
  • Fines are not enough, JAIL the bums, that includes the IP that allows it!

    Votes: 14 30.4%
  • If the spammers are out of country, I would favor threats of cutting them out of the net if they do

    Votes: 6 13.0%
  • I would like to see the software industry develope EMail software that is spam proof.

    Votes: 6 13.0%
  • I like spam, heck I even eat spam, I'm all for more spam.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    46

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BIGSAGE136:
Boogie for President!
God save the country!! (although I do agree with him here - a truly unique experience)
 
jonnythan:
If you send more than 1000 emails in a month, pay 1/2 cent for each over that limit. How's that?

Its not able to be regulated...Who would keep track of your usage and collect the cash?

If someone owns their own email server I suspect they could send thousands of emails an hour. Since an email server works by connecting to the receiving server directly, nobody but sender and recipient knows an email was sent, so far as I know.

You could set it up for ISP's handling the messages in the middle being required to count the bits by category, but you then add a HUGE overhead that isn't there right now...And you'd have to give any money collected to the ISP who was monitoring it, to offset their costs.
 
Fines AND jail sounds good to me... and if the ISP fails to act, same for them.
 
SPAM can easily be defined as unsolicited unwanted email. Some spammers aren't even curteous enough to use their own servers to flood the world with their trash, they spoof other peoples. Legal action, fines, etc., are fine and good if you can find them.. which sometimes isnt easy when you get down to false headers and the other information that can be faked when spoofing. I personally believe think that these individuals deserve every bit of mob justice.
 
scubasean:
Its not able to be regulated...Who would keep track of your usage and collect the cash?

I intentionally left such details out, since I haven't been able to think of any. I'm very much against any additional government regulation in the industry. I just like the idea in general.

If all ISP's did it, and they blackholed random email servers that allow those types of emails, maybe we'd be onto something. But that's never going to happen..
 
Well I get like 3 to 5 spam emails every few days on my primary account. I think you can prevent a lot of spam by just being careful with your email address. I have 3 email addresses; one is my ISP one, one a hotmail and one a yahoo

The ISP one is rarely used on the net. I just give it out to trusted sources (eg scubaboard :)) , close friends and businesses in public (eg my dive shop)

My hotmail account is used for "moderate sites" where I can't be sure how trustworthy the site is. I also use this address on my website and as my MSN Messenger account. I hardly get any spam on it; I think Hotmail has made some great improvements in combating spam.

Basically I sign up with this address at places which I want to visit again but am not sure if they will send me spam (other forums for example)

My Yahoo account, I call it the "Spam Account", sometimes I just have to sign up for something and the site doesn't look very trustworthy. Over the last few months I've got around 1000 emails in there (98% spam i think). I delete everything every few months just to keep it "clean"

For my ISP account I also use a program called Mailwasher which lets me sort out and apply rules for emails before they even get into my Outlook Inbox. Very useful program.

www.mailwasher.net

The program can be used for free (no adware/spyware) with ONE POP3 email account (if you want to use it with hotmail you'll have to upgrade to the pro version which also supports more than one email address)

Of course I guess people who own their own domain a more vulnerable to spam. Again I'd recommend using Mailwasher


Having said all that I'd still want stricter laws against spammers and (very) large fines.
 
glbirch:
pt40fathoms, I apoligize in advance because I am in no way trying to attack you personally, but you raise some points that I feel the need to respond to as someone who deals with spam and email problems on a corporate level every day as part of my job.


(Remainder snipped, I like short replies and try to keep mine short as well.)

No personal feelings hurt here, thanks the reply, I agree with and am aware of all of what you said. I know that one approach wil not solve all the problems. Your point about SPAM being tools for a virus has proven itself to be the case for some of the SPAM that we get. However there are laws that cover the production and distribution of a virus that can and are being used for this type of SPAM. I would be content to know that at least the local North American IP base is not allowing SPAM. I would also be in favour of cutting off the port 23 net link to countries that do not work to curb SPAM. If they see SPAM as a threat to their commerce, you can bet folding money that they will act, and act fast.

It cannot continue, and will take some hard work and guts to stand up to countries that allow SPAM, in order to reduce or even on day stop SPAM.

I'll now go eat a SPAM sandwich as a symbol of taking a "bite" out of SPAM on the net. (not really, I hate canned SPAM as well) :wink:
 
pt40fathoms:
It cannot continue, and will take some hard work and guts to stand up to countries that allow SPAM, in order to reduce or even on day stop SPAM.

I'll now go eat a SPAM sandwich as a symbol of taking a "bite" out of SPAM on the net. (not really, I hate canned SPAM as well) :wink:

Now there I can agree. It will be a lot of work, but it would be nice to see a net without spam. (Queue soundtrack, queue cricket... "When you wiiiish upon a staaaaar...."

Remember, canned SPAM also was revolutionary in its time.
 
Much worse then spammers and spam which you can delete the annoyance is the (edited) telephone solicitors!! These (edited) slime bags think it is great to try to sell you a vacuum cleaner or other crap you don't need during dinner.

The other day some goofball calls at 9pm trying to sell us some tickets for some event or something. I said to him, do you realize how late it is? And goofball replies well it aint late for me. Of course I hung up on this fungus. These are the real criminals that should be be publicly flogged! We get these calls daily even though we ask them to take us off their calling lists. Some even call us long distance, go figure.

I find it more important to enact legislation to stop this harassment and what I call telephone stalking. Spammers, solicitors and the like should be limited to no more then sending out a flyer and THATS IT!
 
Sebastian:
Well I get like 3 to 5 spam emails every few days on my primary account. I think you can prevent a lot of spam by just being careful with your email address. I have 3 email addresses; one is my ISP one, one a hotmail and one a yahoo

I do the same but the spam still gets through.

My opinion? Nuke the suckers! :m16: :bigun2:
 

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