Apeks vs. Scubapro wings

[Ste Wart]

FYI a 'failure point' is a part of a system that, if it fails, will stop the entire system from working

A single cable tie on the inflator is a failure point. Two cable ties on an inflator are not two failure points, since if one fails, the other one still maintains the integrity of the system

1# FYI; Sorry, not a teenage californian, avoid this terminology in adult conversation

2#One cable tie at the top, one at the bottom, look at your own inflator.

A blanking plug is a failure point, since if it fails, the system fails. A wing with a blanking plug and one dump valve has one more failure point than a wing that has one dump valve and no blanking plug

Of all the things classically defined as a failure point in tech diving, I think claiming that a blanking plug is one that really stretches the definition.
A 2nd SPG on your rig; fine I can see that
A Shoulder release on your harness, maybe. However in reality if a shoulder release is going to break, it'll be when you stand up to start the dive, not when you're 'weightless' during it.
A Quick dump's spring mechanism can be regarding as a failure point, as the spring can lose tension over time.
A blanking plug; no not a failure point. That's why the blanking plug is there replacing a quick dump which is a failure point.

 

[Kern]

1# FYI; Sorry, not a teenage californian, avoid this terminology in adult conversation

2#One cable tie at the top, one at the bottom, look at your own inflator.

3, out of the 4 wings I own have 2 cable ties at the top, & another 2 at the bottom. The 4th has 1 at the top, & 2 at the bottom.

PS. No matter how unlikely to fail, I'd consider it possible for any through hull component to dislodge, & therefore a possible failure point.

 

[Tortuga68]

FYI I'm not really interested in your unique definition of what constitutes a failure point

 

[Ste Wart]

FYI I'm not really interested in your unique definition of what constitutes a failure point

Yes, you are. otherwise you wouldn't have bothered checking back to read my post.

Go troll someone else today.

3, out of the 4 wings I own have 2 cable ties at the top, & another 2 at the bottom. The 4th has 1 at the top, & 2 at the bottom.

PS. No matter how unlikely to fail, I'd consider it possible for any through hull component to dislodge, & therefore a possible failure point.

It's a good belt & braces approach to the hose inflator hose.

I like the option, on my wing, of being able to change the position of my quick dump. After all; like my most people, I'm right handed. My wing gives me the option to experiment with different set-ups. For example the centre mounting of the inflator hose gives me the possibility of running my hose fober the right shoulde rather than the left. Probably not an option I would seriously consider, but I may try it on a dive one time.More so now as I'm doing more drysuit tech.

 

[RJP]

Is this the right thread for an argument?

 

[Tortuga68]

I think he quotes people & replies without even reading what they wrote

 

[Ste Wart]

Troll, Troll, troll troll troll

I don't have to read your posts to get the gist of them.

 

[Tortuga68]

Irony

Apparently you don't read Kern's posts either