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[cowjazz]

The thing the about the Bertuzzi/Moore incident that makes my stomach churn is the free pass issued to the gutless puke Marc Crawford.

You would think Crawford would have a little more respect for a player's health and safety after his hit ended the career of Normand Leveille (that happened in Vancouver come to think of it). But no, he sactioned Bertuzzi's action from behind the Vancouver bench, and then refused to condemn it in the aftermath.

Hmmmm, I may have more respect for Ulf Samuelson than Marc Crawford.

 

[ScubaTexan]

Hmmmm, I may have more respect for Ulf Samuelson than Marc Crawford.

Ouch! :11:

 

[santafejoe]

Chelios and Bertuzzi should have to room together.

I would love to see that but it s not going to happen.

 

[Vtdiver2]

Hmmmm, I may have more respect for Ulf Samuelson than Marc Crawford.

HUH?!?!?!?!?:no
Marc Crawford actually has coaching ability...other than being a cheap shot artist who cost Cam Neeley the best years of his career, what other abilities did Ulfie have?
I'm not a Bruin lover, but Cam Neeley was the epitome of what a hockey player should be. It's too bad Harry Sinden and the Bruins ownership weren't willing to open their checkbooks JUST A LITTLE BIT and pick up one more player, as they would have rewarded Neeley ( and Bourque, Oates etc) with a Stanley Cup before his career was cut short. The B's had a great team back then, and needed a power forward who could score to prevent other teams from focusing on Neely's line. It's sad, but as a Habs fan, I got over it rather quickly...lol
C-Dawg

 

[cowjazz]

Neely is still my favorite player for the B's. I threw in the Samuelson comment to put an exclamation point for my distaste for Crawford. At least Samuelson was man enough to admit what he was. Crawford...I think he has a forked tongue.

Seriously, since Ulf left the game, Bruins fans haven't had anybody to boo except for Sinden and the Jacobs family.

 

[RedWingDiver]

cowjazz, I agree about Crawford's part in that whole thing. Of course, being a Wings fan, I may have a slightly biased view about him, but his role in the Wings-Avs rivalry shows that he has the capability to sanction the headhunting of Steve Moore. How can anyone forget Crawford going insane and trying to climb the glass to get at Scotty Bowman?

As far as Crawford's coaching ability...well he does have a Cup with Colorado and I think was a Jack Adams finalist in his first few years in Quebec, but the whole shootout issue in the '98 Olympics as well as his strange preference for Dan Cloutier really makes me wonder about him.

 

[tedtim]

The Bertuzzi/Moore situation was not without precedent in the NHL. They have done precious little to really change the underlying cause and the use of enforcers. Anyone recall Ted Green's skull was fractured as the result of a stick-swinging duel with Wayne Maki of the St. Louis Blues during a pre-season match in 1969. Green was left paralyzed and close to death with no expectations of ever resuming his career on ice. But after a year of convalescence and with a metal plate in his head, Green returned to the Bruins Stanley Cup winning team in 1972, having missed the first win in 1970.

He later went on to be an assistant coach. Think he passed on a few tips to his enforcers? Wonder what Mark Crawford tells his enforcers.

This was a stick swinging incident. NO charges were laid, and AFAIK there was no talk of a lifetime suspension. If the NHL was really interested in striking this black mark on their reputation they would have upheld the initial harsh suspension they gave Bertuzzi.

 

[Vtdiver2]

Seriously, since Ulf left the game, Bruins fans haven't had anybody to boo except for Sinden and the Jacobs family.

Well, with Sinden's management, and the Jacob's tight reins on expenses, Bruin fans have had a lot to boo.
Living in Vermont, There are a lot of Bruin fans, and I've had numerous discussions (arguments) with them about the B's. My take is that as long as Boston fans are willing to buy seats and fill the arena, Bruin's ownership is happy to let them play in mediocrity. They have been willing to spend just enough to fill the seats, and have had some great names on their team, but unfortunately, Boston has become a a turnstill, with the great players going elsewhere to become superstars and/or win Cups ( Montreal has had it's share of that lately as well ) Look at the names Boston has had, and you could fill an All Star roster, yet they never have anything to show for it. I tell all my buddy's that are Bruin fans, that the best thing they could do for the team is stop buying hats, jersey's etc, and stop buying tickets to the games. If that were to happen, and the B's play to an empty house, it affects ownership's bottomline, and then they either start spending to put people in the seats, or better yet, sells the team to someone who actually loves the game of hockey and wants to put a winning team on the ice.
As a hockey purist, I like seeing strong teams on the Original Six, so I'd like to see Chicago fans do the same thing.....they deserve better too.
Just my 2psi,
C-Dawg

 

[ScubaTexan]

The Bertuzzi/Moore situation was not without precedent in the NHL. They have done precious little to really change the underlying cause and the use of enforcers. Anyone recall Ted Green's skull was fractured as the result of a stick-swinging duel with Wayne Maki of the St. Louis Blues during a pre-season match in 1969. Green was left paralyzed and close to death with no expectations of ever resuming his career on ice. But after a year of convalescence and with a metal plate in his head, Green returned to the Bruins Stanley Cup winning team in 1972, having missed the first win in 1970.

He later went on to be an assistant coach. Think he passed on a few tips to his enforcers? Wonder what Mark Crawford tells his enforcers.

This was a stick swinging incident. NO charges were laid, and AFAIK there was no talk of a lifetime suspension. If the NHL was really interested in striking this black mark on their reputation they would have upheld the initial harsh suspension they gave Bertuzzi.

Who was it that hit Henry Boucha in the face with the butt-end of his stick and was arrested after the game and charged with assault and battery with a deadly weapon? I believe this was in the early- to mid-1970s. I think it might have been Dave Forbes.

 

[tedtim]

<snipped>... As a hockey purist, I like seeing strong teams on the Original Six, so I'd like to see Chicago fans do the same thing.....they deserve better too.
Just my 2psi,
C-Dawg

The original NHL teams when it was formed in 1917 were Montreal Wanderers, Ottawa Senators, Quebec Bulldogs, Montreal Canadiens and Toronto Arenas. The Montreal Wanderers left the league a year later. Boston became the first US NHL team in 1924.

I like seeing strong teams in the original six too. Unfortunately, Ottawa took a bit of a long break between 1934 and 1992. The real unfortunate part is that the only way we will see a Stanley Cup final with a "modern" day original six match up is if the Western Conference is represented by the Red Wings.