Another life lost on the Andrea Doria

[MB104]

I found this on a Nantucket newspaper website. Very sad news indeed. My condolences go out to his family:

NEWS UPDATE: Andrea Doria diver's body identified

The body of a diver who failed to surface Wednesday morning after exploring the wreck of the Italian luxury liner Andrea Doria 50 miles south of the island has been identified as ***** (removed) *****

Coast Guard officials said ****'s body was recovered by some of the nine other divers who dove on the wreck site with him earlier in the day.

The crew of the Coast Guard cutter Hammerhead assisted in recovering the body once it reached the surface. *****'s body was transported by the dive boat he was on, the John Jack, to Montauk, N.Y., where it was positively identified by the East Hampton Police Department.

 

[diver 85]

sorry to hear, sounds like alot of pilot error may have happened(ie choosing to make the dive)......Now my question, what's the average vis @ this time of the year on the wreck???...TIA......

 

[Rhone Man]

Might want to do a thread merge here: http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/ne...hs/245786-another-life-lost-andrea-doria.html

Any diving death is sad, but given the numbers diving on the Doria I suppose further deaths were inevitable. We have wrecks that are safe, shallow, warm and clear in the BVI, but you still have people die on them if you get enough divers going through. We need to wait and hear whether it was a 'diving' cause of death or an 'incidental' cause of death.

 

[Mr.X]

The Doria is no cake-walk. On any given day she can present a number of challenges that ordinary clear, warm water tech divers would have difficulty dealing with. It is a dive for those who have trained locally, and at depth. The current can run from still to raging, disorientation can occur, exhaustion & penetration adds further challenges etc. At this moment in time it's a good idea to just relay condolences.



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[Colliam7]

Now my question, what's the average vis @ this time of the year on the wreck???...TIA......

A good question. I have not been to it, so I am interested to know, based on this report:

over the past 25 years, at least 15 people have died after diving in the almost zero visibility of the Andrea Doria's depths

Are the conditions at depth really that (almost zero vis) bad?

 

[trtldvr]

The Doria's reputation for difficulty is it's biggest safety feature. Diver's tend to be their sharpest when doing dives like this, where as divers on "safe" wrecks become complacent. The three divers that died on the Spiegle last year had all dove the Doria, but chose to dive the Spigle equipped as if they were doing a 40 ft reef dive. Diving has been marketed to the masses. Opporators need many divers to dive these "safe" wrecks to survive.

Safe Dives
trtldvr
www.divealive.org

 

[RIOceanographer]

A good question. I have not been to it, so I am interested to know, based on this report:Are the conditions at depth really that (almost zero vis) bad?

I've certainly never been there so I only know what I read, but this site has a ton of info on the wreck:

Scuba Diving - New Jersey & Long Island New York - dive Wreck Valley - Dive Sites - Andrea Doria Shipwreck

If you scroll down to the "Diving the Doria" section way down the page it says the vis is typically 10-20ft. Though elsewhere on that page visibility inside Gimble's hole is described as "inches". Of course, some of the pictures on that page look much better than 20 ft so clearly there are "good days".

 

[HowardE]

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A ScubaBoard Staff Message...

Please - The FAMILY has not yet been notified - I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT - I spoke to someone who was on the expidition with the victim - lets leave names out of this (for now), and not have ScubaBoard as the place where the family finds out from

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[Missdirected]

I think you're probably reading too much into that. It didn't say they weren't technical divers, it just said they were "recreational divers". Although it is common usage amongst divers to differentiate between tech and rec divers, going by the dictionary definition all "recreational diver" means is "a person diving for fun", in other words not a commercial diver. I am betting that is all the article was attempting to say. Going with that usage, they could well have been tech trained.

Anyway, too bad this had to happen again.

Agreed you're probably right.

BTW, Hiya

 

[AquaMan455]

My Brother


I am the brother of the Diver that Died yesterday on the Doria. My family, especially my mother have not been able to get any details on what excatly happend down there. If anyone was on the expedition or knows someone who was please reply to this post with any and all real information that you can provide. If you would prefer not posting the information on the forum you can email it to me at chris@tri-tek.us , and thank you to all of you that keep my brother and our family in your thoughts and prayers.