Air-sharing drills and disease transmission

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Given the emphasis on multiple air-sharing drills in technical and some recreational classes, is there any reason for concern about also sharing viruses or bacteria?

How are any risks affected by custom mouthpieces, with their numerous indentations, or by shaking the reg as it's donated to violently increase water flow over the mouthpiece?
 
metridium once bubbled...
Given the emphasis on multiple air-sharing drills in technical and some recreational classes, is there any reason for concern about also sharing viruses or bacteria?
A *Safe Diver* always carries alcohol prep wipes and uses them to thoroughly cleanse the donated mouth piece before inserting it into their own mouth.

A Small tupperwater container (with holes drilled in it to avoid crushing at depth) clipped off in the right thigh pocket with a SS double ended bolt snap will keep a ready supply of fresh wipes handy for the *Safe Diver.*
 
Damn UP...I already drilled the holes:D Anyway, my insight into the question is 'yes' diseases can be spread via mouthpieces underwater, but in all reality the probability of this occurring is very low. Take for example syphilis. It is highly contageous on land through saliva. In the water, the probability of contracting this would be negligable since it requires a specific temperature in order to survive, hence it living in your saliva. There is also the fact that the water itself is going to disperse the saliva on your mouthpiece, decreasing the amount of bacteria (Treponema pallidum ) present. With that said, the Australian Gov put out a warning which can be read here: http://www.whs.qld.gov.au/alerts/96-i-46.pdf
but gave no reasons. As well, DAN also had something to say reagrding HIV/AIDS, but no evidence to support their position. http://www.diversalertnetwork.org/medical/faq/faq.asp?faqid=139 . All in all, the probability is very low, but still existant. Fire a question off to DAN for reference material, they would be able to help in this case, as well as the CDC.
 
This post does not constitute a considered medical opinion in any way shape or form!

Clearly if you wish to avoid all risk you must not dive.

From a common-sense perspective the risks of contracting a serious infective condition from another diver's regulator are orders of magnitude less than the risks of the sport itself. And no you cannot blame your Luetic condition on George's mouthpiece.

The widespread use of a secondary air source makes a need for buddy breathing to be much less likely but it remains a means of saving life in extremis.

Perhaps, before you dive with a new buddy you should ask yourself if it would be safe to kiss him on the lips? :rolleyes:

I would not recommend trying it.:D :D
 
It is EXTREMELY difficult to transmit HIV through saliva. Possible, yes, but not easy.

This is a very good thing, because if HIV was EASY to transmit, we'd all be dead by now! Consider that every time you sneeze some aerosolized saliva is expelled.....

HIV (and other blood-borne diseases) generally require some kind of access to the blood stream in order to effect transmission. There is also an "amount" of viral material that has to be transmitted for an infection to occur, but the exact concentration/count of viral particles necessary is not known and probably varies widely from person to person.

The kind of "extreme risk" scenario that many activists on this disease like to paint simply isn't true. When you have a disease that has a near-100% fatality rate without treatment, and even with treatment it kills you eventually anyway (just more slowly), if it was EASY to transmit you'd have half the human population dead by now. Remember, we're 20+ years into this disease's "mass infection" at this point.

Don't believe the mass hysteria engendered by the activists over infection profiles in Africa. A little-discussed factoid is that one WIDESPREAD practice in Africa used for birth control is putting Tab A into Slot B-1 instead of Slot B. Why? Well, when you don't have ready access to condoms and pre-packaged forms of birth control, what is the OBVIOUS other choice? (The activists DO NOT like discussion of this, and have successfully quelled the WHO talking about it for what should be obvious reasons. Not talking about things, however, is not the same as making them not happen.)

As for other diseases, yes, you can transmit things by mouth. Unknown to many, an extremely high percentage of people have one of the strains of the herpes simplex virus in their body - the varient causes cold sores, specifically.

Also, the most virulent time for transmitting most "beasties" is BEFORE you have symptoms - you're most likely to transmit the flu or a cold, for example, in the day or two BEFORE you feel like crap. So, while avoiding that kind of "close personal contact" while you're feeling ill is a good idea (you probably won't be diving with the flu anyway!) in terms of efficacy in avoiding transmission its dubious at best.

Salt water is a nice diluent of various beasties, but its not a disinfectant. But since essentially all beasties require some critical concentration to cause an actual infection, it may be good enough.

Bottom line? There is risk in scuba diving. There is also risk riding in the subway with someone who happens to have active TB next to you who coughs. Deal - its called life, and none of us get out of it alive.
 
Dr Paul Thomas once bubbled...
This post does not constitute a considered medical opinion in any way shape or form!

Perhaps, before you dive with a new buddy you should ask yourself if it would be safe to kiss him on the lips? :rolleyes:
Sort of makes me glad that my dive buddy is cute and just happens to be married to me. Blood tests are not only required before obtaining a marraige license anymore! :D
 
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