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A perdix is ridiculous for beginners... Especially if you're buying twice. Get some cheap equivalent to a Zoop novo and pay yourself a dive trip with the money saved on those expensive computers.
I am a beginner. My wife and I bought packages that included i300 computers. They are hard to read in low light. We upgraded to Perdix AI which is way more computer than we need and is an outstanding piece of equipment and it's user interface is excellent. We will grow into it and never be dissatisfied or suffer from upgraditis. The only reason I can see to not go that route is if you think you aren't going to stay in the hobby. Every time we use them we are glad we spent the money. It was a big decision and is the one decision that we have never questioned later. Most of the other gear we bought has or will be upgraded. We already have gear that we will never dive again and that is a waste of money. A Perdix is not in my opinion, ridiculous for beginners. My wife was the one that pushed this decision by the way so that I wouldn't be disappointed over time.
 
A perdix is ridiculous for beginners...
You can just leave it in recreational mode. From what I've seen of it, it's pretty easy to use in that mode and you don't HAVE to use all the mixed gas and deco features. I assume the OP is a responsible adult and will do the sane thing with it at his current level of training and experience. At the very least, his wife is a responsible adult and will make sure of that (from my personal experience, this is more likely the case ;)).

Having said the above, everything below is gonna point towards not getting a Shearwater right now. They are most certainly worth lusting after (I certainly do) but consider what's below.

Especially if you're buying twice.
Dear lord, yes. +1000. Even used, a Shearwater is going to be close to the same cost of the entire rest of the setup and that can be hard to justify when you're spending as much money as you will at the start.

Get some cheap equivalent to a Zoop novo and pay yourself a dive trip with the money saved on those expensive computers.
I would agree. Regardless of Suunto or not, get one that does nitrox and just go diving. Used Zoops are aplenty on used gear sites and, from what I've seen, are still quite popular with vacation divers. You can always resell it if/when you decide to upgrade.

It's not ridiculous if you're going to end up buying one eventually anyway.
That's a big "if", right? I'm all for future proofing and "buy once, cry once" but this is a fair bit of money we're talking about here for something you don't even know you'll need.

Any computer with that kind of bright color screen is going to be WAY more readable in low viz, compared to a Zoop.
I've used a Zoop on a few night dives and never had an issue with it. It doesn't even have a backlight, just the luminescent dial and all I had to do was point my light at it for a couple of seconds and it was super easy to read.


@jgaryclark Computer decisions aside, here's some of my views on the rest of your gear you've listed.
- I think the Aqualung package at your shop is a bit pricey for what you're getting. I am a huge fan of used gear but not everyone is comfortable going that route. Are you committed to buying from your shop? The online options others have listed (DGX, DSS, Scubatoys) are worth a hard look.
- I had an Aqualung ABS octo and could not, for the life of me, get it to not freeflow during the dives. I took it to the shop and had it looked at twice to no avail. I heard the same thing from 2 other divers as well as one LDS, so my sample size is n=4.
- Regarding BP/W vs jacket BC, it's really hard to know whether you'll like one vs the other. Jackets are more familiar and feel "safer" due to it but BP/W is really easy to get used to. My wife and I switched to that when we had ~15 dives and with no training or mentoring on how to adjust the harness, were comfortable diving them in a couple of days. The other thing you sometimes hear is that if you're going to vacation locations primarily you'll mostly see jacket BCs and that's what the shops/guides/DMs are used to. I have never had issues with BP/W and even longhose on trips I've taken, even when they were changing out tanks, setting up for us, etc. Dive ops now are very familiar with this setup and many (most?) DM's I've seen dive some variation of it.
 
Being relatively new divers having gone through this over the last two years, I'll weigh in with my opinion and share my own experience. I don't think ~$1,000 for a complete package is unreasonable. Do some shopping around and maybe piecing a kit together might work better if you have the patience to do so. If it fits your budget great. I'm comfortable purchasing a used BCD, but I'm personally not going to do a used reg. Just a personal quirk...like some won't get a used wetsuit.
I concur with some of the others that waiting to see (or at least seriously thinking about) what sort of diving you want be doing long term might help. I speak from experience. My wife and I (not knowing what we don't know), didn't do that, so our own "journey" through equipment has been an ongoing trip.

BCDs: My wife started with a basic jacket style BC which she found too bulky for travel, so we got rid of it it so she could get the "ideal" travel BC (Aeris JetPack). After a couple months, we figured out this was not the right choice. We found our diving habits evolving now that we were certified. We were diving more frequently in both warm water when we traveled (which was our only intent initially). Then we found ourselves diving in (surprise, we got bit by the bug) a colder local quarry and lake Michigan...We discovered we like wrecks...meaning she needed a more robust rig that could hold more weight (and potentially doubles).
So we sold her Jetpack and got a Hollis Ride (LTS precursor). It can handle doubles but is also light enough to travel.
I ditched my jacket BCD for an SMS75 sidemount system. (yes, it's a hybrid, yes there are probably better dedicated SM systems. I happen to love it). So 3 BCs for her so far. 2 BCs for me.

Computers: We both purchased Zoops for our initial OW training, I discovered the joy of wireless air transmitters so I sold my Zoop when I got my Hollis TX-1 (Thanks DRIS). Wife still loves her Zoop. In retrospect I wish I had kept my Zoop for backup. So 2 computers plus two transmitters for me, 1 for her...and now Perdix AIs have been released...big temptation.

Regs: I had an older Aqualung Titan LX set with ABS octo originally. It just had 1 HP port. Lo and behold, I need two HP ports to use the wireless transmitter and keep the SPG for redundancy. Ergo, need a new reg set. Sold the Titan set and got a great deal on the Hollis DC3/212 at DRIS for $200 (I think they still have a few left), so we grabbed one for each of us. But we needed an octo...so we opted for a more "streamlined" rig and got a pair of Atomic SS1 integrated octo/inflators rather than a traditional octopus.
As indicated earlier, I got the sidemount itch, and my wife thinks doubles could be in her future, so we add two more DC3/212 sets (Same deal), so we each have two sets (great, but I've since discovered the SS1 is not an ideal inflator for sidemount, lol!). I'm also thinking a turreted 1st stage would have been better for both of us...

We are also both now kicking about going down the DM/instructor path, which I believe would require a more traditional BC/Reg setup, so more stuff may be in the future...Not to mention the rebreather on the list...

In retrospect, I could (should) have purchased a rebreather straight out the gate. Frankly if we had just stuck with our original intent of vacation diving once or twice a year, our original set of gear would probably have sufficed. This being said, as we found ourselves diving more and discovering what interests us, we had no idea that we would be seriously interested in a more technical/DM-instructor path eventually. I'm also super guilty of being impatient, impulsive, fickle, and wanting to constantly tweak my equipment which doesn't help.
Our local dive shop up the road happens to be Dive Right In Scuba (DRIS), and they have been great. Even when I don't make a purchase from them, the staff and our instructors (who I now consider great friends) have all been very eager and willing to provide help and guidance; not to mention this forum. Good luck, have fun, dive safe.
 
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Our local dive shop up the road happens to be Dive Right In Scuba (DRIS), and they have been great. Even when I don't make a purchase from them, the staff and our instructors (who I now consider great friends) have all been very eager and willing to provide help and guidance; not to mention this forum. Good luck, have fun, dive safe.

Another local DRIS groupie! :D Mark, DRIS is my local shop, too. We've got mutual friends, although I'm not sure we've actually met yet.
 
That's a big "if", right? I'm all for future proofing and "buy once, cry once" but this is a fair bit of money we're talking about here for something you don't even know you'll need.

That's why I also included the Geo in my list. So, the OP can decide what makes the most sense for their situation and future plans.
 
A perdix is ridiculous for beginners... Especially if you're buying twice. Get some cheap equivalent to a Zoop novo and pay yourself a dive trip with the money saved on those expensive computers.
Why would any new diver would want to invest on a "Perdix"? Most of its features would be absolutely meaningless to them. Set in rec mode!!! Then just buy a rec only computer.
LP is offering Zoop for $190.00.
If anyone want to use it for tec dive in few yrs time then just wait for the appearance of "P....."
Predator, Petral, Perdix etc etc all in a space of few yrs.
BTW, I have been using a Uwatec Aladin Pro Nitrox since 1997. As for tec dive, I use two bottom timers + pre dive plan on slate.
 
Why would any new diver would want to invest on a "Perdix"? Most of its features would be absolutely meaningless to them.

CCR mode, multi-gas, and trimix? Yep, pretty needless for a new diver. But, I would hardly call that "most" of a Perdix's features.

GREAT display
GREAT customer service
GREAT warranty
Nitrox support
User replaceable battery
Uses any AA-sized battery you can find
Good battery life
Reliability that is not exceeded
Wireless air integration using the most commonly found transmitters
Non-proprietary deco algorithm
Highly user-friendly and intuitive interface
Bluetooth downloads and comes with the BT dongle ($100 data cables need not apply)

Those are all features that are useful to any level of diver.

There is no type of recreational or tech diving that has yet been invented that a Perdix or Perdix AI would not be suitable for. Not just suitable but most likely the best choice available. Unless you're diving CCR, in which case a Petrel 2 EXT might be better.

The only downside is cost. And that is a personal choice that nobody should be making except the person shopping for a computer.

If you buy one and then end up quitting diving, you can sell a Perdix and most likely you will lose hardly any more money than what you would lose if you bought some cheap recreational computer. Especially if you buy the Shearwater used in the first place. And if you do NOT quit diving any time soon, then the cost of a Perdix or Perdix AI is chump change on a per-year basis.
 
^exactly^
 
Reliability that is not exceeded
Come back in 20 years time and tell me if any Shearwater will last that long!!!! My Uwatec Aladin is approaching that time frame soon.
BTW, none of your praise on Shearwater has any meaning to me.
 

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