advice for long weekend in OrangeCnty

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Hi, my girlfriend & I are taking a long-weekend vacation (Fri Sept7-Mon Sep10) and will be visiting Orange County.

Can you suggest a resort or dive-shop/hotel combo we can use for our base of operations? We're renting tanks - bringing most everything else - nitrox is a plus.

We're visiting friends in Laguna Niguel (62677), and would like to fit in two days or so of diving. Neither of us has done a lot of saltwater diving; I've been been on a few warm-water trips but mostly dive in the Great Lakes (near Chicago), while she is recently certified. We're just looking for pretty sea life & some easy diving for practice.

We'll be driving up to the area Thursday night (Sept 5) and hope to get 2 or so days of good diving in - exact days are flexible. We're torn between southern Orange County or northern SanDiego county and would welcome all ideas.

John G.
 
Well, since no one else has replied yet, I'll "dive in" and see what I can do to help...

Unfortunately I live north of OC (in Ventura County) so I would not be the right person to tell you of the best dive sites in OC. But I will tell you that it's unlikely you'll find any dive-op/hotel combos. This area is very different from many of the destination dive areas you might visit -- there are no scuba-oriented resorts, and the dive shops around here generally don't offer dive/lodging packages. (Caveat: I could be wrong about this, there may very well be some hotel around Newport Beach that offers packages, but I've never heard of one.) Local dive ops do, however, often have boat charters and other scheduled dive trips, so that's something to look at.

Speaking of boat charters, that may be your best bet. We have fantastic local dive boats, and if you go on one of them for a couple of day trips, you will likely get the best diving experience you can get while you're here. There are a number of boats that go out from Long Beach (just north of OC) and San Diego. They will usually take you out to the Channel Islands, where you will generally find far better conditions than at the beach. Here is a link to a list of all of the dive boats in Southern California: http://californiadiveboats.com. That site will give you links to all of the dive boats' web sites, where you can find their calendars and see if any of them have "open boats" during the dates you're here. You can also find out what organizations might have chartered them on your dates, and see if you can book it through them.

The reason I suggest going on a boat is because, with little ocean diving experience, and with your girlfriend being a new diver, it would not necessarily be a good idea to try beach diving. Depending on the surf conditions, entries and exits can be quite challenging -- even experienced divers around here are known to get "maytagged" on occasion, and there are few local beach divers who haven't sacrificed at least some gear to the sea gods due to heavy surf - something you probably don't want to deal with while on vacation. Further, unless you are diving with someone who knows the dive site, you may not know where to go to find the best reefs, and you could easily end up doing a dive in which you see nothing but sand, sand and sand. Boat dives will allow you to make easy, controlled entries and exits, and assure that you will get to see cool stuff.

However, if you are going to go on one of our local boats, you need to be aware of how they might differ from your other dive boat experiences. You mentioned you've been on a few warm-water dive trips -- this usually involves "resort-style" boat diving, in which the dives are led by a Dive Master, and your equipment is often handled with full concierge service. Our local boats operate differently: you are expected to deal with your own gear in terms of loading, unloading, set-up, etc. (although you can certainly expect a lot of help from our fabulous crews). Further, the DM's generally do NOT go in the water, but remain on the boat ready to hop in in the event of an emergency, and to help divers as they return. Divers are expected to be self-sufficient, are left alone to plan and execute their own dive plans, and must be able to get themselves safely back to the boat. This means that you need to ensure that you both feel ready and capable of diving on your own (and, of course, that's what being certified is supposed to prepare you for). It's just important to be aware of what to expect: you can expect to get a good, detailed dive briefing, but NOT to have a guide or DM-led dive. (You do always have the option of hiring a DM to be a personal guide -- a local dive op can help you with this, if you're interested.)

You can often rent your tanks directly from the dive boat; most local dive boats do offer air fills, and some even offer Nitrox -- check it out on the boats' websites.

Another option is to visit Catalina Island. You might even want to consider staying there for a couple of nights. Catalina Island is an easy 1-hour ferry ride from Dana Point (here's a link to the ferry: http://www.catalinaexpress.com). Now, Catalina is definitely a more dive-oriented destination, and you may very well be able to find a dive/lodging package there - or just take the ferry there and back for a day or two. On Catalina, there is a dive park at Casino Point which has easy entries/exits and a wealth of things to see, as it is a protected marine reserve. You can rent tanks right there on the island, and get air fills for multiple dives from an air-fill trailer right at the dive park.

Well hopefully this gives you enough general information to start looking around and considering options. And I'm sure others who might be able to give you more information specific to diving in OC will weigh in.
 
fubari:
Hi, my girlfriend & I are taking a long-weekend vacation (Fri Sept7-Mon Sep10) and will be visiting Orange County.

Can you suggest a resort or dive-shop/hotel combo we can use for our base of operations? We're renting tanks - bringing most everything else - nitrox is a plus.

We're visiting friends in Laguna Niguel (62677), and would like to fit in two days or so of diving. Neither of us has done a lot of saltwater diving; I've been been on a few warm-water trips but mostly dive in the Great Lakes (near Chicago), while she is recently certified. We're just looking for pretty sea life & some easy diving for practice.

We'll be driving up to the area Thursday night (Sept 5) and hope to get 2 or so days of good diving in - exact days are flexible. We're torn between southern Orange County or northern SanDiego county and would welcome all ideas.

John G.

Hi,
welcome (almost) to OC.

As far as I know there aren't too many dive sites northern San Diego county .... most of the dives in OC are done in Laguna Beach - nice touristic town ... on the beach.
Most of the time dives are "easy", but, if you are not lucky and there is surf the days you are here ... it could be very very difficult to pass the surf zone.

As far as I know, there are NO "dive-shop/hotel combo" here in the area, but plenty of good dive shops. If you choose to dive in Laguna Beach then the local LDS is www.lagunaseasports.com

Another alternative would be to take the Catalina Express, go to Avalon/Catalina and dive the Casino Point / Underwater Park, or if you are into boat diving there are plenty of dive boats too.

By the way, I live in Laguna Niguel.

Best Regards,

I_AM
 
FWIW, fantastic bike trail (the old coast highway) runs west of the 5 along the ocean.
Smooth enough for road bikes, pretty flat, we will be there in 6 weeks doin dat. When I lived there, I liked the Newport Flyer the best, out of Corona del Mar for Catalina island.(I stuck to the coast highway from Laguna coastal area to Coronana del Mar, prefered it to the freeway) IF you like helicopters that is an extremely fun way to go, no lines. It was 65 dollars then. I always wondered why more people did not do that.
 
catherine96821:
IF you like helicopters that is an extremely fun way to go, no lines. It was 65 dollars then. I always wondered why more people did not do that.
I lived in OC for 17 years, and I can tell you why *I* never did the helicopters: because for a while there, many years ago, it seemed like one was crashing every other month! I valued my life too much...I stuck with the ferry. <g>

I'd forgotten about the Catalina Flyer -- that's another ferry, that goes out of Newport Beach. Here's the website: http://www.catalinainfo.com/
 
Thanks for the ideas - they are Extremely helpful!
I'm leaning towards Catalina island.
John G.
 
There is a small hotel right next to the Laguna Sea Sports dive shop. I can't recall the name of the hotel, but you could call the shop (949) 494-6965 and find out. I am sure the shop can recommend other hotels as well. Hotels in Laguna range from the outrageously expensive Montage at the south end of town to some old style motel type properties. The shop is one block up from Shaw's Cove which is one of the most popular dive sites in town. You can get a guided tour of the cove through the shop if you like.

There are two ferry operations to Catalina, the Flyer out of Newport as previously mentioned and the Catalina Express out of Dana Point, Long Beach (two locations) and San Pedro. The Newport boat goes back and forth once a day, whereas the Express has trips all day long from its Long Beach location, plus multiple trips from its other locations, so it might fit your schedule better. Both use high speed catamarans.

It takes less time to cross the channel from Long Beach or San Pedro than from Dana Point or Newport, but you have a longer drive. People who are prone to sea sickness tend to opt for the longer freeway drive. The crossing tends to be smoother out of San Pedro and Long Beach.
 
The crossing tends to be smoother out of San Pedro and Long Beach.
Yea, those monohulls ride differently. It's the 710 tractor trailers that I try to avoid. So...he's going with his GF, so ya'll should recomend some eateries. Is Five Feet still in Laguna? Cafe Zulu? oh, Purple Feet in Dana Point for wine flights!
 
Thanks for the ideas, everyone. We're sitting in the neighborhood coffee house now wrapping up plans. Looks like Catalina Island is the way to go. The way our schedule turns out, we'll be getting out there some time around noon on Friday, and heading back about noon on Sunday. This is shaping up to be a nice weekend all the way around; I greatly appreciate your help.
John G.
catherine96821:
Yea, those monohulls ride differently. It's the 710 tractor trailers that I try to avoid. So...he's going with his GF, so ya'll should recomend some eateries. Is Five Feet still in Laguna? Cafe Zulu? oh, Purple Feet in Dana Point for wine flights!
 
So where did you end up diving? Did you go to Catalina and dive Casino Point? The local dive conditions sucked basically this weekend due to a south swell.
 

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