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The doctor told me she "looked up" the requirements. Hmmm.

She should be familiar with the AAUS requirements, though, as she sees a good portion of the divers that take this class. Any university employee that takes this class have the U pay for the physical if they go through the Alaska Occupational Health clinic, which is where I went. So the doctors there should know the drill. However, I don't think the class has been offered more than 10 or 15 years, so it could be that I'm the first person with this disability to come thru the program. I think it's safe to say that there probably aren't as many divers up here as there are in FL or CA!

Ok, I'm going to try and recreate my previous post that I accidentally deleted.

I'm taking the AAUS course at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, and I signed up so that I could learn proper sampling techniques for my research in the Caribbean where I used to live. With this course we get the AAUS cert, the sci diver cert, membership to the UAF scientific diving research program, and a couple other PADI certs if we want them (drysuit). We are required to have (or to take before the OW dives if we don't already have) our OW cert, CPR, FA, and DAN 02. I figured aside from the drysuit and sampling, there wouldn't be much for me to do since I've got the other certs. However, I'm getting more out of it than I thought I would - we haven't even talked about sampling yet and we're 5 weeks in.

There are about 18 students in the course (all different levels - some are doing their OW cert simultaneously, and some are very experienced DMs. I'm a rescue diver with only 100 dives or so (all in the warm Caribbean), but I fall somewhere in the advanced category of this class in terms of experience). There are 2 instructors - 1 with the university and 1 with the LDS, and there's a TA for the course, too. They are all really great and very knowledgeable. There just aren't enough of them! We meet once a week from 7-9pm in a community pool. We only have 3 lanes of pool, so it's really crowded, as you can imagine. It's a neat course, but it could be better with better resources.

After this week, we have one more pool session, then we head down to the ocean over spring break (the U has a lab that we stay at where other classes will be conducting research) and we do our OW dives. We do 3-4 dives a day for 7 days (all night dives are optional), and there's a written exam, though I haven't heard any more on that or what's on it since the first class. No study material has been handed out. From what I understand, we dive dive dive dive dive, and then once we've passed our skills and the exam, we can spend the last couple days assisting the researchers. Those that need more work get it, but they don't get to assist researchers, which is the really cool practical experience part we're all looking forward to. So far, this course focuses a great deal on honing diving skills, and for me, there are a few new ones to learn and master.

Unlike TX A&M, our requirements are just what's in the AAUS manual. Nothing extra has been added, except the necessary extras for AK diving, and I think the teachers had their own variations of the exercises (9. Demonstrate watermanship ability, which is acceptable to the instructor. this one gives instructors a good deal of leeway to mix things up).

The first thing I wanted to comment on, though, was the swim eval since everyone's talking about it: the 25m u/w no breath swim was HARD for me, and I swim every day and practice yoga every day. I am not out of shape. I know how to breathe, and I still found this extremely difficult. So no one should feel bad about it. I think if you're not from a swim team background and don't know a coach and how to train for this, it's really hard. I wish that I had seen Thalassamania's instructions on how to prepare for it before I did mine! We did our swim eval on our second week of the class, and we were told about it the first week (the only classroom week), so I practiced like crazy on my own. The class had no practice time they just have you jump in and do your skills, and I never was able to make it the whole pool length until the actual night of the class. I guess adrenalin helped because I miraculously made it across. I had tried everything in my week of practice from hyperventilating to just taking a really big breath, and nothing worked until that night. The lifeguards at the university pool where I swim were useless -when I'd ask how to train for it or if there was a trick, they'd say stuff like, "Just hold your breath." Duh! Luckily, we were allowed to kick off. Without a good kick, I might not have made it. Another skill I hadn't done before was surface dive and retrieval of a 10lb weight from the bottom of the deep end (12 ft, I think) wearing MSF. I figured it would be easy, and the retrieval was, but surfacing with the weight wasn't in the cards for me! It was too heavy, and it kept dragging me down! Finally I managed to lift it over my head and above the water, though my head was still underwater. I had the snorkel on, and with the tip up, I tried to inflate my lungs enough to bring my head up, but no go. I guess it was enough for a pass b/c I wasn't asked to repeat the skill. I normally dive with 4-6 lbs - so I guess this was just beyond what my inflated lungs could hold. Hmmm...maybe this has something to do with why the 25yds was so difficult. Tiny lungs? But they did a chest xray for my physical, and my lungs are fine, and I scored very high on the elasticity portion of the spirometry test (not as high on the content), so I'm not sure what's up with that! I guess they are just freakishly small. Anyway, that was hard and something new, and I was feeling good about accomplishing new skills.

There were some new diving skills we practiced the 3rd week - new to me, I mean. Stuff we didn't do in my PADI rescue diver course: no mask buddy-breathing for about 3 minutes. I've done buddy breathing, and I've done mask removal, but not simultaneously. I thought it was great to practice. I had asked the instructor before how do you know when to pass the reg if you can't open your eyes u/w and see when your buddy needs it, and she said to just practice with masks on, and when we looked comfortable that she would tells us to remove our masks. She said you just have to be Zen she was right! It was difficult at first until my buddy and I got into a rhythm. We will repeat these skills in our open water dives, and I can imagine that this will be much trickier in OW than in the pool, especially in AK with sea lions zipping about. Yikes! One skill, which they called "ditch & don" was new to me as well. We removed all of our gear, swam to the halfway mark of the pool, swam back, grabbing for the reg first thing to take a breath, and then put the gear back on. People with weight belts were allowed to leave them on, people with integrated weights ditched the weights, too. The other stuff was repeated from my rescue diver course, but it was much more difficult b/c of the drysuit. Removing my weight pockets and putting them back in was much harder with lobster mitts. Removing my inflator hose and reconnecting was nearly impossible and took an embarrassingly long time. So for those of us like me coming from warm water-only diving backgrounds, there is a whole new element added to this course, and I'll be getting my drysuit cert as well. I am really uncomfortable in the drysuit so far and hope to feel more comfortable by the time we get to the OW. Last week was all about drysuit diving, so that was good practice for me. Tomorrow night we do rescue drills, so I'm sure there will be a lot of towing involved. We'll probably all overheat as that pool is about 80% humidity, and the drysuit feels like a sauna! To get the best practice, I want to wear what I'm going to be wearing under my drysuit in the OW dives, but it's just too hot at the indoor pool I can't. Therefore, I anticipate a whole variety of buoyancy issues with air pockets between the layers forming. It also doesn't help that I'm on my 3rd drysuit tomorrow as the last 2 didn't fit (all borrowed from shop). Not a lot of time to get comfortable in the gear. Nothing is perfect, though.

My biggest critique with the course would be student/teacher ratio. I'm sure 10/1 sounds great to the university dept heads, but anyone who has taken a diving course could probably agree that 10 students is pretty big. I've never taken a diving course with more than 4 other students. With just 2 hrs a week in our tiny section of the pool and so many people trying to learn the skills, there isn't a lot of time for Q&A. Because I'm a rescue diver, I get buddied up with brand new divers, but I'm not particularly comfortable with that as I'd rather be with a more experienced drysuit diver. I am a bit anxious about cold water diving, about the potential aggression of sea lions (I've heard horror stories), and of having numb extremities. I wish the OW were at the end of the semester, and there was more practice time before we hit the 33F water of Kasitsna Bay.

What are the time frames for this course at other schools?
 
It sounds like UAF's course is rather different from those that I am familiar with. Our student to staff ratios is usually 2:1 and never more than 3:1, we use full wet suits rather than dry suits, our doff and don includes removal of the weight belt and a buoyant ascent followed by a rather challenging breath hold buoyant descent.
 
What's the length of your course?

I thought that the way we do the ditch and don was very challenging, as by the time you get back to your gear, you've swam 25 yrs again with no breath. I don't think it would as feasible to do it the way you do it with drysuits on, but maybe I'm saying that b/c I'm so friggin' uncomfortable with the drysuit. Also, we'd have to dump the air out of the drysuit first to do a controlled ascent, right? So once at the surface, for descending again, we've got no air keeping us warm in 33F water. Maybe that's why we do it differently? Don't know - just a thought. It would be neat to try in a wetsuit. Sounds like getting down again would be hard.

The first time we put the drysuits on, the teacher had us all jump into the deep end - no gear, and try to dive under the surface as deep as we could. No one could get off the surface. He told us to vent our necks and try again. A couple could this time, but the rest of us couldn't. I wasn't able to fully submerge without weights. Aside from being cold, I don't know how I'd ever get down to the bottom again.

Interesting to hear that the other courses aren't as crowded as ours. I suppose that's Alaska, though: state school, limited funding, amazing place for marine research.
 
What's the length of your course?
100+ hours
I thought that the way we do the ditch and don was very challenging, as by the time you get back to your gear, you've swam 25 yrs again with no breath. I don't think it would as feasible to do it the way you do it with drysuits on, but maybe I'm saying that b/c I'm so friggin' uncomfortable with the drysuit.
I've done it in a dry suit, it's actually not any worse than in a full wet suit.
Also, we'd have to dump the air out of the drysuit first to do a controlled ascent, right? So once at the surface, for descending again, we've got no air keeping us warm in 33F water. Maybe that's why we do it differently? Don't know - just a thought. It would be neat to try in a wetsuit. Sounds like getting down again would be hard.
You need to keep enough air to prevent uncomfortable and even potentially damaging squeeze.
The first time we put the drysuits on, the teacher had us all jump into the deep end - no gear, and try to dive under the surface as deep as we could. No one could get off the surface. He told us to vent our necks and try again. A couple could this time, but the rest of us couldn't. I wasn't able to fully submerge without weights. Aside from being cold, I don't know how I'd ever get down to the bottom again.
With some time spent in teaaching a good pike surface dive none of you would have had much problem reaching the bottom.
Interesting to hear that the other courses aren't as crowded as ours. I suppose that's Alaska, though: state school, limited funding, amazing place for marine research.
No it has to do with vision and leadership. We ran that course on a total budget of under $6,000 per session, that's 20 students at 4 credits each at $125 a credit. That was not a good budget argument since most were full time students and they took the diving course plus 12 other credits and only paid for the "full load" of 12; or staff who took the course for free. All the staff were volunteers, what they got out of it (beyond personal satisfaction) was free leadership training up through Instructor, dive locker space, free air, free regulator repair, as many tanks as they wanted to use, an endless supply of buddies/reseach assistants, etc.
 
The doctor told me she "looked up" the requirements. Hmmm.

She should be familiar with the AAUS requirements, though, as she sees a good portion of the divers that take this class. Any university employee that takes this class have the U pay for the physical if they go through the Alaska Occupational Health clinic, which is where I went. So the doctors there should know the drill. However, I don't think the class has been offered more than 10 or 15 years, so it could be that I'm the first person with this disability to come thru the program. I think it's safe to say that there probably aren't as many divers up here as there are in FL or CA!

Best of luck getting that resolved, I'd hate having a doc tell me that I couldn't dive.

My biggest critique with the course would be student/teacher ratio. I'm sure 10/1 sounds great to the university dept heads, but anyone who has taken a diving course could probably agree that 10 students is pretty big. I've never taken a diving course with more than 4 other students. With just 2 hrs a week in our tiny section of the pool and so many people trying to learn the skills, there isn't a lot of time for Q&A.

10 to 1 is a bit larger than the program here at the University of Miami (I'm in it now), I think we're at 7 to 1, which still seems large (at least in the pool). I'm surprised that with a large ratio like that you're only meeting for 2 hours a week, that must make it a bit tougher for the less experienced people in the program.

Because I'm a rescue diver, I get buddied up with brand new divers, but I'm not particularly comfortable with that as I'd rather be with a more experienced drysuit diver. I am a bit anxious about cold water diving, about the potential aggression of sea lions (I've heard horror stories), and of having numb extremities. I wish the OW were at the end of the semester, and there was more practice time before we hit the 33F water of Kasitsna Bay.

Do you at least have the same buddy each week?

Hopefully all the dives go well, chances are the sea lions won't give you too much trouble (at least so I've heard:D). 33 degrees, hmm, the coldest I've been in was 39, and that was diving in a wetsuit, diving dry you should be fine.

What are the time frames for this course at other schools?

The University of Miami has a semester long program setup where we meet in two classroom sessions per week (total of 5 hours) and up to two pool/skill sessions per week (total of 4 hours), so it's usually 7 to 9 hours each week, plus the occasional weekend trip. I've attached our schedule this semester so you can take a look.
 

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Wow - my class is really low on classroom and pool sessions. I wonder if we have intensive classroom down at the bay lab? Not sure. I'll let everyone know when I'm back.

Does anyone use a textbook? We weren't given any text, but told to bring our OW manuals with us to the trip.

It doesn't say how many on the syllabus, but the RD Diving Adventure dives are 7am-1pm, giving time for 3 dives, so that's 6 OW, then the Apr 12 session has time for 2 dives bringing it up to 8 dives, then you have the immersion weekend, so how many dives are that weekend? 9? 12?

My understanding is we do 3 dives a day for 7 days with the option of doing night dives all days but the final days. So we'll have a minimum of 21 OW dives and max of 27. Is that comparable to everyone else?

I was pretty excited about the course, but now I'm thinking I'm missing out. Plus it's going to be really cold. Have I mentioned how I'm not looking forward to that part so much?

Good news- I'm back from the ENT doctor, and he wrote me a note clearing me to dive. But first he talked for 7 minutes (I timed him on the wall clock) about the proper technique for clearing my ears, and even pulled out a pointer and showed me a chart, explaining what happens when you swallow to clear the ears. He then moved into a short dissertation on the importance of equalizing, and compared it to a runner's cramp, except "you can't work through this pain. If you can't equalize, cancel the dive." For minutes 1 and 2, I made small interruptions, telling him I've been diving, I know how to clear my ears... and then I realized that he was just trying to spend enough time with me to justify charging me the exorbitant sum he was going to charge me, so I looked at the chart and nodded appreciatively.

But anyway, he wrote a note for the other doc, I dropped it off, it's been added to my file, and I'm good to go. Hooray!
 
Wow - my class is really low on classroom and pool sessions. I wonder if we have intensive classroom down at the bay lab? Not sure. I'll let everyone know when I'm back.

Does anyone use a textbook? We weren't given any text, but told to bring our OW manuals with us to the trip.

We're using the NOAA diving manual - although it's more or less supplemental reading.

It doesn't say how many on the syllabus, but the RD Diving Adventure dives are 7am-1pm, giving time for 3 dives, so that's 6 OW, then the Apr 12 session has time for 2 dives bringing it up to 8 dives, then you have the immersion weekend, so how many dives are that weekend? 9? 12?

The RJ diving covers 2 dives each day, and the April 12th session is probably one dive, but it could be two. I still don't know all the details of the immersion weekend, although apparently we're getting to try out doubles and scooters :yeahbaby:. So I couldn't give you an exact total.

My understanding is we do 3 dives a day for 7 days with the option of doing night dives all days but the final days. So we'll have a minimum of 21 OW dives and max of 27. Is that comparable to everyone else?

I was pretty excited about the course, but now I'm thinking I'm missing out. Plus it's going to be really cold. Have I mentioned how I'm not looking forward to that part so much?

lol, it was 68 degrees on our first dive this past Sunday - I loved it but the others seemed to think it was too cold, and our DSO was in a drysuit. I wouldn't say you're mssing out, I'd kill to get away from Miami and dive in Alaska for awhile.

Good news- I'm back from the ENT doctor, and he wrote me a note clearing me to dive. But first he talked for 7 minutes (I timed him on the wall clock) about the proper technique for clearing my ears, and even pulled out a pointer and showed me a chart, explaining what happens when you swallow to clear the ears. He then moved into a short dissertation on the importance of equalizing, and compared it to a runner's cramp, except "you can't work through this pain. If you can't equalize, cancel the dive." For minutes 1 and 2, I made small interruptions, telling him I've been diving, I know how to clear my ears... and then I realized that he was just trying to spend enough time with me to justify charging me the exorbitant sum he was going to charge me, so I looked at the chart and nodded appreciatively.

But anyway, he wrote a note for the other doc, I dropped it off, it's been added to my file, and I'm good to go. Hooray!

Good to hear that's dealt with.
 
Wow - my class is really low on classroom and pool sessions. I wonder if we have intensive classroom down at the bay lab? Not sure. I'll let everyone know when I'm back.
I will be interested to hear.
Does anyone use a textbook? We weren't given any text, but told to bring our OW manuals with us to the trip.
NOAA Manual, International Code of Practice for Scientific Diving, Instructor's Handouts. O/W manuals are, IMHO, inadequate.
... So we'll have a minimum of 21 OW dives and max of 27. Is that comparable to everyone else?
12 are required by AAUS, we typically get in 16 to 18.

Good news- I'm back from the ENT doctor, and he wrote me a note clearing me to dive. But first he talked for 7 minutes (I timed him on the wall clock) about the proper technique for clearing my ears, and even pulled out a pointer and showed me a chart, explaining what happens when you swallow to clear the ears. He then moved into a short dissertation on the importance of equalizing, and compared it to a runner's cramp, except "you can't work through this pain. If you can't equalize, cancel the dive." For minutes 1 and 2, I made small interruptions, telling him I've been diving, I know how to clear my ears... and then I realized that he was just trying to spend enough time with me to justify charging me the exorbitant sum he was going to charge me, so I looked at the chart and nodded appreciatively.
That's good news.
 
No it has to do with vision and leadership. We ran that course on a total budget of under $6,000 per session, that's 20 students at 4 credits each at $125 a credit. That was not a good budget argument since most were full time students and they took the diving course plus 12 other credits and only paid for the "full load" of 12; or staff who took the course for free. All the staff were volunteers, what they got out of it (beyond personal satisfaction) was free leadership training up through Instructor, dive locker space, free air, free regulator repair, as many tanks as they wanted to use, an endless supply of buddies/reseach assistants, etc.

Thalassamania,
I can't really speak to this. Ours is only a 2 credit course. I don't know what the budget is, but by the number of grad students on assistantships in there (and I'm faculty), certainly a bunch of us our taking it for free. During the first class, the professor said that we're running on a shoe-string budget, that she and the instructor from the LDS are doing all the certs for free (we have to pay for our PADI cards if we want them). The shop lets us sign out drysuits, weights, BCs, regs, and hoods, but we're on our own for drysuit underwear, gloves, boots, etc. And those are expensive. That's excellent that you have volunteer staff! I don't know why there aren't volunteers to help out here. Maybe there will be once we're down there - don't know. The only thing I can think of is that the students that have passed the course are now part of the UAF scientific diving program, and so they are down there doing their own research, not helping. But again, I have no idea. Food at the lab is included in the course fee, but she gave a big spiel about how there will be no soda, no chips, nothing remotely considered a luxury food item as they only have $ for the bare necessities. It was actually pretty humorous the way she was saying it..."no carbonation. If you want that stuff, bring it yourself. We can't afford it. And there won't be much in terms of snack food. Actually, there will be no snack food. If you can't go without potato chips, bring your own!" It sounded a little like Survivor: the Alaskan Dive Episode. I'm packing a small bag of protein bars and bananas just in case I find myself starving, though I'm sure I'll be fine. I don't eat chips anyway. :)

For students, even those like me that get the credits for free, the course is pricey. We were charged a $425 course fee to cover the the stay at the lab, but we're on our own for transportation down to Homer - 14 hrs south of Fairbanks, and we have to pay an extra $65 for the ferry they're arranging for us to take us to the lab. It's expensive. I'm too old for an all nighter, so in order for me to be at the ferry dock at 2pm, that means I'm doing an overnight in Anchorage. I've got a friend to stay with, but still - parking garage, dinner. It adds up. Then there's the cost of the physical students have to pay for that. I get mine for free as I'm a U employee, but the ENT is not covered as that's extra. So an expensive course for the students.

I think, though, even if it's not as intensive as some of the others that I'm reading about here, I'm really glad I have the opportunity to take a course like this up here. I'm putting everything I have into it, and hopefully I'll get a lot of out it. And it's my sincerest hope that a playful sea lion cub doesn't decide to see if my head fits in his mouth.

Here's a link to my teacher and to the course description. I don't have a PDF of the syllabus and don't see it online.
 
Do you at least have the same buddy each week?

No, I wish. It's intentional, though, I'm pretty sure. I'm just not sure the point, but they keep switching us around.
 

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