90's Sherwood Oasis

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I was recently given this older Sherwood Oasis set from someone who quit diving years ago. It looks like it's from the 90s and in decent shape, but obviously needs to be serviced.

I am currently shopping for a reg set, but not sure it's worth servicing this one for $200-250 (plus more to replace the console with a plain spg) where something like a streamlined HOG set would be around $400.

Any advice on what to do with this set?
 

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That is the last model of the old style dry air bleed design. It should use a piston that has a separate module screwed into it with a laser drilled hole and a plastic filter. It’s the most capable and reliable of that design: it can actually be cleaned without clogging and replaced if necessary. (See here for more details.)

Those are solid and high-quality, but low- to medium-end capability regulators. When tuned properly, they breathe as well as you want a regulator to breathe. But they have no features that most modern medium-range regulators have: cracking pressure adjustment, Venturi flow adjustment, etc.

Largely because they lack many of those fancy features, they also are mechanically very simple. It’s like six O-rings to rebuild the things. If you are careful, move slowly and are even a little bit mechanically inclined, they are a piece of cake to maintain.

I own a set of those regulators I use on doubles. They are actually my favorite regulators for demanding dives in high flow. They are simple and drop-dead reliable, and in the case of high flow the fact that they are not highly sensitive like most modern regs are is an advantage.

Having said that, I honestly would not put a lot of money into those regulators. If you truly have to put $250 into those regulators for them to be usable, I would seriously consider taking that money and putting them into something more modern. However, if you have ever wanted to delve into regulator maintenance and repair, these would be an excellent opportunity to dip your toes in on a design that is very straightforward.

If you have specific questions, feel free to ask. I’ve been using various models of this Sherwood design for like 20 years. I’ve used everything from what I believe to be the earliest first stages that have a big bolt shape on the end of them (and only three LP and one 3/8” HP port!), through the wavy chrome ones all the way up to the ones that you have.

For the record, if you had any model but that last model, I would say that it really isn’t worth it. Earlier models had a piston where the dry air bleed was a chunk of sintered metal that was very easy to clog, and when it got clogged the solution was to throw the piston away and buy another one. The problem is, those pistons are not straightforward to come by, and they cost like $50. Given the only mid-range performance and age of those regulators (and somewhat awkward hose routing for the earlier models) it’s probably not even worth dealing with them. (It’s even worse for the earliest models: they were built so the plastic HP seat was crimped into the piston and was not able to be replaced: Sherwood’s idea was that the piston would be replaced at each and every service!)

ETA: I didn’t really talk much about the second stages. That’s because there’s really very little to talk about. They are fixed downstream demand regulators. I prefer the model previous to these, which still had a round body and diaphragm. Supposedly, these have better breathing performance because the diaphragm is larger, but I dislike the soft purge cover and frankly just thought they looked ugly. :-) The functionally, though, is as good as any other fixed downstream demand regulator out there. Which means it isn’t spectacular. I think that most people probably wouldn’t notice a huge difference as long as it was properly adjusted and maintained, but people who are very sensitive to things like cracking pressure and work of breathing will not be pleased.

Again, in solid working order, I would have zero problem using those regulators. But if it took noticeably into triple digits to put them in working order, I would probably move on.
 
Just take the pressure gage out of the console, that solves that problem.
I bet the thing works, did you test it?

I too like the older model second stages, but you could put any second stage on that regulator. Those first stages work forever and their performance is fine .
 
Just take the pressure gage out of the console, that solves that problem.
I bet the thing works, did you test it?

I too like the older model second stages, but you could put any second stage on that regulator. Those first stages work forever and their performance is fine .

Rig looks like what my wife and I both dive. I don’t have the octopus as I use an Air 2, while she has the standard setup.

Can’t believe someone wants to charge you $200+ for a service that doesn’t cost us more than $50 plus parts.
 
Wow, appreciate that incredibly detailed response, @tmassey and everyone else for your comments.

The $200+ figure is an estimate from my LDS (~$100 labour, $30-40 per stage, plus any replacement parts), which sounds like their going rate for any reg service (it's Monterey). They also didn't offer to test them, though that would've been a good idea, I think it would've been something like $30 for an inspection, and I don't know anyone with a tank in the area yet that could hook it up for free.

I hadn't considered working on them myself, though I'm mechanically-inclined, I've never owned any regs before and haven't ever opened one up. If you can point me to the right parts kit and instructions I'm reasonably confident I can take it apart and put it back together, though I'm not sure I would stake my life on the quality of the work.

I also hadn't considered just stripping away the console and leaving the pressure gauge, and replacing the second stages only. Are all second stages compatible, or are there some metrics for interchangeability?
 
That old Sherwood with the dry-air bleed system is actually a nice reg and as mentioned easy to work on.
It has something called a moisture retention vane or fins which captures exhaled moisture and returns it on inhalation. Helps reduce cotton mouth......thus the name.

I dove an Oaisis from about 1997 to 2002........until I had a full blown freeze-up / free flow in Crescent Lake at 160ft and it scared the hell out of me enough that I bought an Apex ATX200 and retired the Oasis to temperate or warm water diving.

PS... That little puck computer you have there in the console looks like it's probably a Sherwood Source or Re-Source.....maybe a USD Matrix. Those are actually nice little computers. I have a couple of them and still use them as backups. If that one that you have is the older model without the user changeable battery door, then check out this thread starting at post No 13.

 
Can’t believe someone wants to charge you $200+ for a service that doesn’t cost us more than $50 plus parts.

The $200+ figure is an estimate from my LDS (~$100 labour, $30-40 per stage, plus any replacement parts), which sounds like their going rate for any reg service (it's Monterey).

I think OP’s numbers are reasonable. Regulator servicing has gotten expensive. Here’s a quick example from a well respected company: Service for Regulators

In short, $245 total, parts and labor, for one first stage and two second stages.

DRIS might be slightly cheaper, depending on parts. Assuming only $20 a kit for parts, you’re looking at $180: Regulator Repairs | BCD Servicing | Dive Right In Scuba

And yes, that is nearly half the cost of a brand new DGX gears open water package, including hoses and SPG, delivered to your door: DGX Custom - DGX Gears D6 Streamlined OW Reg Package

Cost is only one of the many reasons I do my own service. @rsingler ’s reg class is awesome and a great value; but you’d be surprised with what you can do after reviewing a variety of service manuals as well as a few YouTube videos…

But for a lot of people, having a ‘trained scuba tech’ service their regs is their strong preference. And $200+ for servicing a first stage and two seconds is pretty much the going rate. For that, I’m not sure I’d be investing in a 30-year-old Sherwood Oasis with that crummy flippabe octo. (For me, your octo should be as good as your primary, even if you aren’t a primary-donate type. Why possibly make a bad situation worse with a crummy reg?)

But if you can do your own service? Go for it: like I said, I really like my SRB5300 firsts with round Blizzard seconds that I’ve rebuilt myself. Even then, a rebuild costs me $35 for each rebuild kit — and I need two of them…. SCUBA ain’t cheap.

By the way, my primary regs are the doubles version of the regs I linked above. *Very* good value for quality regs. But I do all my own service. If I didn’t, I would recommend sticking to a name-brand reg with a large dealer network.
 
Cool score, of course when you tackle the servicing you will get assistance a plenty on here

then be able to score


then be able to

stake my life on the quality of the work.
 

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