6 to 10' Solo Dive

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If the LDS lets you use the pool for free, why not use the pool? You'll be able to see better, the depths are probably similar, there is NO risk of entanglement, and you might even have somebody there who could give you some feedback on your trim and what-not.
 
If the LDS lets you use the pool for free, why not use the pool? You'll be able to see better, the depths are probably similar, there is NO risk of entanglement, and you might even have somebody there who could give you some feedback on your trim and what-not.
I know this lake/pond well and there are no entanglements but will have dive tool with me. I would like to dive the lake instead of the pool because it would be a little more adventurous than the pool and i would have it to myself on my schedule and from my home.
You think its not a very good idea? Even if i stay in 5' depth?
 
I was gunna say that-- Why not just practise stuff in water you can just about stand in? Toughest place to practise buoyancy anyway.
 
I think you should be fine as long as there are no drains or currents. Just remember not to surface holding your breath as even with those depths you can get air embolism.

Adam
 
ccx2,

Don't think for a minute this is the same as the dive shop pool. If you're pulling the flag how do you feel about getting entangled in your own line? It can happen faster than you think.

Unless your flag can carry spare weights it will be a lot easier dialing things in while in a pool. Especially so when you drop a weight in to the silt.

At the end of the day I assume you're an adult and you are a certified diver. I agree a shop pool can get pretty stinking boring real fast and burning a tank may be painful. None of us have a sense of your present skills and understand that body of water as you do. Having a spotter is a good idea but depending on circumstances they may not be able to effect a rescue. Listen to that little voice in the back of your head and if you do the pond stay focused.

Pete
 
DevonDiver, i dont understand what that one means either, please explain.

Well, basically, unless you have gills... then any venture into the underwater environment has its risks. To judge the potential risk of a solo dive upon the depth is an illusion. If you can't get to the surface, or you can't get air, or you suffer any sort of incapacitation - then you're just as dead at 10' as you would be at 100'.

I've done all sorts of solo dives. Solo deep-air-night-wall dives to 260'. Solo technical wreck penetrations beyond-the-light-zone at 160'.. etc etc

Nonetheless, I still regard any solo dive, regardless of depth, as a serious proposition. It takes just one thing to go wrong and, without support, your life can come to an abrupt and miserable end.

Of course, you can mitigate against the risks of things going wrong. That takes training and appropriate equipment. Even then, without buddy/team support you can still get into situations that are beyond your capability to resolve.

To safely solo dive, you need to understand the risks. Once you understand those risks, you can plan to mitigate them. You also need to know yourself - and have an uncompromised understanding of your actual capabilities. It's easy to imagine that you can deal with problems. Sadly, imagining your skill threshold and knowing it are very different issues.

.... I feel comfortable in doing this.

This is the crux of the issue.

Why do you feel comfortable doing this?

Is it because you have sufficient training and experience to hold uncompromised insights into the risks that you will be facing...and your capacity to deal with them?

Is it because you fully understand the all risks and have ensured that your training, equipment and experience are sufficient to reasonably mitigate them?

Or is it because you are unaware of the risks and making assumptions about your capacity to reasonably safeguard yourself against them?

What do you more experienced / Instructors think?

I think it is delusional to base a risk assessment on the basis of depth.

I think that developing a true understanding of the risks involved in solo diving takes training and experience.

I think that inexperience and lack of risk awareness often leads novice divers to develop a high level of over-confidence in their abilities, relative to the risks they may feel content to expose themselves to.

I think that mitigating the risks involved in solo diving requires appropriate equipment beyond that used for open water buddy diving.

I think that the odds for a fatal incident occuring on a solo dive are substantially higher than when supported by a buddy/team. Whilst those odds remain low, it only takes 'one bad roll of the dice' for a terminal and unpleasant outcome to arise.

I think that being a prudent and safe diver involves having the mindset that you will do everything possible to mitigate the risks that you expose yourself to.

I don't think that it is possible to mitigate those risks until you fully understand them.

I don't think that anything you learn on an open water course, or read on the internet, will ensure that you fully understand the risks involved.

I don't think that it is possible to ascertain your capabilities without expert feedback and advice based upon your in-water skills. You cannot hypothesis or imagine how capable you will be in a life-threatening, high-stress underwater emergency.

I think that you don't know what you can and cannot do, until you have done it. The first time you do something, should not be alone and unsupported underwater. You have not done any of the emergency measures needed in a solo diving situation

In short... do the dives when you feel confident that you have enough experience and knowledge to fully understand the risks....and you have taken comprehensive measures to mitigate all the risks involved through adoption of the correct skills and use of the correct equipment.

Be aware that your confidence may stem from a lack of understanding, rather than an effective and uncompromised assessment of your true capabilities relative to the known risks you will be facing.
 
ccx2:
I know this lake/pond well and there are no entanglements but will have dive tool with me.

How hany dives have you made in this lake? Does the bottom silt easily? How far from the bottom do you have to be to avoid silting usng a flutter kick? How well do you use a frog kick? There's a site near here that I've dived hundreds of times. I do not think I know it well, although I'm starting to get to that point.

ccx2:
I would like to dive the lake instead of the pool because it would be a little more adventurous than the pool

A solo dive is also more adventurous than diving with a buddy. That's its main attraction for most divers thinking about diving solo for the first time. Any time you are considering something because it is more adventurous, make a one word substitution and see how it sounds before you take the plunge. "I would like to dive the lake instead of the pool because it would be a little more foolhardy than the pool." It doesn't sound nearly as sexy when you say it that way, but it means exactly the same thing.

ccx2:
and i would have it to myself on my schedule and from my home.

Schedules can be worked out. Scheduling it never a good reason to put your life at undue risk.

ccx2:
You think its not a very good idea? Even if i stay in 5' depth?

I do not believe anyone should be diving solo until after they have a great deal of experience in lots of different conditions. Before diving solo they should know how they will react in a diving emergency. I think most solo divers start diving solo much too soo. I know I did.
 
Sounds pretty tame to me. Good place to practice your buoyancy and fiddle around for of a couple hours. I'd take a buddy along though who could yank you out if you messed up.
 
What have you been doing for open water dives? How about inviting a local buddy over to share this experience. If you have not been diving locally with buddies since certification I would highly discourage going in this pond alone,

Another thing... earlier when I read of the borrow pit I envisioned a site that you have seen empty and KNOW that the bottom if free and clear. If that's not the case there's no telling what sort of wire, cables and other snares await. in a silt out you could get snared in the dark in a heartbeat. Picture that for a moment.

Pete
 

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