2 Side Mount AL40's and a Back Mount S100?

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Something to thing about for SM shore entries, seeing you’re in the north-east. Loop bungies might not be the best option. At least in NJ, with full size bottles I wouldn’t want to try to loop in standing in chest deep surf and walking in isn’t really an option. I use a DiveRite rig with ring bungies. The bottles are clipped in and secure. I know there are critics but for rough surf or boat diving in the North Atlantic, loop bungies wouldn’t be my first choice. Probably my fifth choice, right after not diving at all.
I'll check it out, thanks for the info. Some of the exits here can get pretty hairy, especially if the weather changes while you are on the bottom. One of the things I like about this configuration is that I think I can get completely geared up at my truck, then just walk to the entry with no setup at the shore. I've walked around the basement with the 100 & two 40's all mounted and it feels very comfortable, also very tight, secure, and streamlined. They tuck in nice when I'm horizontal due to the tension from the bungie, they don't hang low at all. All 3 tanks are AI going to my perdix 2, one second stage on each, no additional spg's so very little clutter or failure points. I'm feeling like I'm really going to enjoy this as a solo setup.

I have 15 dive sites I have to map this winter and plan on doing long enjoyable solo dives to check them off one by one.
 
I'm going to try this soon. It started by getting a AL40 bailout bottle for self sufficient diving. But then I thought, well instead of weighting my other side to offset the the weight of the AL40, why not get another AL40? And so I did, and have been playing with the mounting (bungie from plate + hip d-ring) in the basement dive shop. I really like how it feels and cant wait to give it a try in the water, hopefully in January. I looked around to see if there was anyone else diving this configuration and was a little surprised that i really didn't see anyone doing it for long recreational dives. Just curious what your thoughts are, is this a Frankenstein configuration for some reason I'm not aware of?
I’m curious what kind of dives you’re doing that require 180 cft of gas. Are you decompression trained? Diving in overheads that prevent you from having surface access? Sometimes recreational divers think that the more gas, the safer, and that is simply not true.

You are diving a system that seems pretty complex and I’m not sure if you’ve defined the specific role of each of these three tanks or the protocols for using them. Typically, someone carrying 3 tanks is doing so because each cylinder has a specific use, and the diver is trained in their use, as well as in other ways to mitigate the increased demands of dives that require that much gas.

And BTW, I wouldn’t say an AL 40 is a ‘standard’ bailout bottle. On Internet forums there are always plenty of threads about carrying that much gas as a bailout on recreational dives, but in reality the VAST majority of recreational divers using a single tank just use a buddy for their emergency gas. Solo diving, that’s another story of course, but even then you see way more small ponies like 13s and 19s in the real world, and TBH if that’s not enough gas to get you out of trouble on a recreational, NDL dive, you’re probably pushing limits pretty aggressively.

I’m not trying to get down on you, I just think that the system you’ve described is not appropriate for NDL recreational diving without specialized technical training, and if you were to get this training, you’d almost certainly learn that there are much better systems already in use.
 
I’m curious what kind of dives you’re doing that require 180 cft of gas. Are you decompression trained? Diving in overheads that prevent you from having surface access? Sometimes recreational divers think that the more gas, the safer, and that is simply not true.

You are diving a system that seems pretty complex and I’m not sure if you’ve defined the specific role of each of these three tanks or the protocols for using them. Typically, someone carrying 3 tanks is doing so because each cylinder has a specific use, and the diver is trained in their use, as well as in other ways to mitigate the increased demands of dives that require that much gas.

And BTW, I wouldn’t say an AL 40 is a ‘standard’ bailout bottle. On Internet forums there are always plenty of threads about carrying that much gas as a bailout on recreational dives, but in reality the VAST majority of recreational divers using a single tank just use a buddy for their emergency gas. Solo diving, that’s another story of course, but even then you see way more small ponies like 13s and 19s in the real world, and TBH if that’s not enough gas to get you out of trouble on a recreational, NDL dive, you’re probably pushing limits pretty aggressively.

I’m not trying to get down on you, I just think that the system you’ve described is not appropriate for NDL recreational diving without specialized technical training, and if you were to get this training, you’d almost certainly learn that there are much better systems already in use.
No worries, you didn't come across as getting down on me. The dives I'm doing are shore dives, most starting at 20' with the majority of the time spent at an average depth of 40'-50'. There are a few that drop to 85' but those are the exception. Excepting the few deeper dives, I plan on staying down for a few hours NDL permitting, mainly to get the site mapped in one go, or two at the most. I have 15 sites to map over the winter so want to be as productive as possible.

You are not alone in the feeling that this is a horribly complex system, and I will be honest with you, I am not able to see what the issue is. I need one redundant air source to be self reliant, that's not up for question. Whether it's a 40 or a 13 is something that's been debated elsewhere many times, people can be pretty entrenched in camps at both ends of the spectrum. About the only thing that everyone can agree on is that a "spare air" is a horrible idea. For me, I'm in the 30/40 camp, if I'm going to take along a redundant air source I want it to be at least 30. When its rigged the way I have it now, for me, the 40 is no more difficult to manage than a 30. So I think other than debating the size of my redundant air source, we are mostly in agreement up to this point.

As far as the VAST majority of divers relying on a buddies air source, well that's fine for them, but not something I agree with. You won't convince me that swimming to your redundant air is safer than just switching regs. In any case, its not applicable here, I'm diving alone.

And then we add a second 40 to the other side and everyone's head explodes at the thought of a horribly complex system. This is what I am not seeing, to me it is a minor addition, sure it doesn't need to be there, but then again it brings a few things to the table. I now have even more redundancy which I welcome when diving alone in cold north east Atlantic water in the winter. I also welcome the extended bottom time NDL permitting of course. And lastly, it is fun for me to play with the rigging for the 40's, getting them just the way I like, and practicing the use of them, seems like a win/win to me. I recognize that I seem to be the only one who sees it this way, it truly surprises me that this extra 40 is so controversial.
 
Some of the exits here can get pretty hairy, especially if the weather changes while you are on the bottom.
I’ve used a short leash on the neck of side mounted tanks clipped to a chest dring for rough shore entry and exit. Once you’re in the water you can unclip and use the bungee. Post an update on how it went and any changes you make.
 
Just curious what your thoughts are, is this a Frankenstein configuration for some reason I'm not aware of?

it truly surprises me that this extra 40 is so controversial.

You asked a question and got a lot answers that you didn’t want to hear. There’s a term floating around here for that behavior…instead of using it I’ll give you an honest attempt at identifying the controversy.

Two tenets that a lot of us believe in are “starting with the end in mind” and “if you don’t need it then don’t take it.”

Slinging one al40 as redundancy (with a single BM) is good practice for future dives where you’ll sling a deco bottle; slinging one left and one right is neither necessary or good practice for later on and could require you to unlearn bad or dangerous habits.
 
I’ve used a short leash on the neck of side mounted tanks clipped to a chest dring for rough shore entry and exit. Once you’re in the water you can unclip and use the bungee. Post an update on how it went and any changes you make.
Thanks for the tip. I'm doing something similar, the bottles are stage rigged, so the bottom gets clipped as far back on the waist belt as possible and the necks are looped with the bungie, the top clip of the stage rigging gets clipped further up the waist belt, it's slack, not supporting anything, but if the bungie snapped or slipped off, the top clip would catch the bottle.

I will definitely report back after i get in the water. Thanks for offering up helpful advice.
 
You asked a question and got a lot answers that you didn’t want to hear. There’s a term floating around here for that behavior…instead of using it I’ll give you an honest attempt at identifying the controversy.

Two tenets that a lot of us believe in are “starting with the end in mind” and “if you don’t need it then don’t take it.”

Slinging one al40 as redundancy (with a single BM) is good practice for future dives where you’ll sling a deco bottle; slinging one left and one right is neither necessary or good practice for later on and could require you to unlearn bad or dangerous habits.
Thanks @lostsheep I get what you are saying. I also was pondering this and came to the same conclusion that I had inadvertently stepped on a golden rule (or two). Just so you know, I am a big proponent of both those tenants, but I guess I am looking at things from a different perspective. It could be a wrong perspective, in any case I have a lot of diving to do this winter and will certainly find out how my thoughts work in practice. I will be happy to report back if I end up changing it based on practical experience. I'll also report back of everything works as expected, in any case I think I'm well covered for the task in front of me, nothing left now but to get in the water and see how it shakes out.
 
Loop bungies might not be the best option.

When out of the water with loop bungees, you can use double enders between tank neck chockers and chest D rings and attach the bottom boltsnaps to the lower back drops (rather than waist d rings). This setup is very sturdy. Once in the water you move the bottom bolt snaps and remove the top double enders.
 
When put of the water with loop bungees, you can use double enders between tank neck chockers and chest D rings and attach the bottom boltsnaps to the lower back drops (rather than waist d rings). This setup is very sturdy. Once in the water you move the bottom bolt snaps and remove the top double enders.
Thanks @LFMarm, this is going in my notes.
 
How are you planning on routing these 3 hoses? If the answer is keeping them stowed on the 40s then you really can't make the excuse of practicing sidemount.
If the answer is around the neck are you prepared to manage 3x second stages? Long hoses on two? No long hose at all? Multiple necklaces?
 

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