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Rkelleyj

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Unreal experience that I wanted to share, I'll try to keep it simple.

At 8mins in @ 75ft I started breathing slightly wet on my main reg. I switched over to my octo, which was dry. I decided to slow my inhale just a bit to be safe until I felt more comfy with the octo. Meanwhile, I purged my main just for the sake of getting any small amount of water out. No big deal....I chose to keep my octo in and it was breathing dry. At this point, I'm thinking I have a 2nd stage failure and have to use my octo for the rest of the dive.

10 seconds or so later, I rotate my torso a little to look under a part of the reef, and got a big inhale of water. I still had my main reg in my hand for some reason, even thought it was clipped on a ring....I immediately moved into what turned out to be nearly vertical body position, put in my main reg from instinct to cough out the water. As I'm doing this, my main started to breath slightly wet again but not as bad as before so I kept it in until my coughing subsided a bit. Now I'm thinking I had some sort of 1st stage failure, I decided to end my dive, signaled buddy/DL and went up..boat overhead. Both regs breathing very slightly wet at this point.

The low-down dirty shame
Back on shore, turned the tank upside down and opened the valve. It was like my bathroom faucet..it literally wet the dock. To make it worse, when we removed the tank valve.. the dip tube was missing. Somehow this tank didn't get the visual by the magic men behind the doors......

Lesson?
If that were to happen again, my lesson learned was immediately signal out of air to buddy and share some gas. Thinking rationally, I probably would have slammed my mouth into his octo without even signalling to be perfectly honest. That thought has me rethinking my configuration and going with a necklace for both me and my buddy. Many necklace subscribers say, one reason to use a necklace is for ooa situations where someone simply is panicked and yanks your reg out of your mouth. I was panicked with lungs full of water.

Experience
I know I was confused about the situation down there...the wet/dry breathing, plus the inhalation of water added to the confusion. If anything, it was an experience. It is also something that I could handle again.

What doesn't kill you...I did the next dive, first one in the water.
 
Wow, thanks for sharing the story. That could have been some funky air you were breathing.
I agree. Problem with your second stage, switch to Octo an your dive is over. Octo fails, OOA drill.

You got through it, your training worked well enough, you lived to learn and you helped us. All in all, I'd say you had a reasonable training dive instead of a fun dive.
 
Wow, thanks for sharing the story. That could have been some funky air you were breathing.
I agree. Problem with your second stage, switch to Octo an your dive is over. Octo fails, OOA drill.

You got through it, your training worked well enough, you lived to learn and you helped us. All in all, I'd say you had a reasonable training dive instead of a fun dive.

In removing the 1st stage, there was a goo of aluminum oxide packed between the tank valve and my 1st filter..it was nasty stuff
 
Tank valve was perfectly fine when assembling the gear.

The dip tube on the tank valve usually prevents this type of thing from happening, as it is the straw looking tube on the valve. If the tank has a bit of water in it, and say and you invert yourself while diving, the water inside the tank will go to the valve, but the straw looking tube sticking up keeps your air delivery out of that water.

When I had put my body in a near vertical position after inhaling water, it was important bc the water went back down to the bottom of the tank....of course I had no idea of the importance at the time I did it. It turns out that would have saved my life if I had been a good distance away from everyone.

The dip tube is either threaded or pressed into the tank valve. It's metal, plastic ones were made illegal about 10 yrs ago I think.

In my case, the tube was missing but there was so much water that it wouldn't have mattered. When I say faucet gushing on the dock, I'm not exagerating..it sprayed out for several seconds!!

HTH

---------- Post added February 3rd, 2013 at 01:04 PM ----------

So where did you get that tank??? Seems like somebody owes you a big apology and a complete regulator service.

Agreed..
 
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Sounds like you handled things just about perfectly. I would have been rather baffled at why I was getting water through BOTH second stages, myself. I agree that whoever provided the tank owes you a service on your reg!
 
Missing dip tube - seems like the VIP cert is suspect. Is this in the US? Rental tank? The shop needs to take a good look at this before they get sued out of existence!
 
Missing dip tube - seems like the VIP cert is suspect. Is this in the US? Rental tank? The shop needs to take a good look at this before they get sued out of existence!

Hi SC - ya missing visual for sure, it wasn't in the US and we set the tank aside from the others. I wasn't interested in suing anybody or anything, the shop guys were all angry enough at each other for the blame and handling it. They serviced my reg enough so I could keep diving, but it needs a proper APEX kit now.

I learned, that's what I got out of the deal. In reality, aside from the negligence on the tank issue, you are certified and you should be able to handle situations like that by buddying up and being a responsible diver. Had I been irresponsible and far away from the group, and also remained horizontal just bc of how I dive, it would have been a disaster and very likely I wouldn't be typing this to you guys and gals.

The point of my telling you all this is simply for education to give back to the forum. However, I did leave out the most important "personal" part of my story because it wasn't educational. I had switched my wife's gear off this tank before the dive....simply because it was old looking to me and I wanted to take it so she wasn't taking an older looking tank valve. What a crazy decision that was, it was her 2nd post-certification dive.....imagine that.

Dive on!
 

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