100% O2 reg

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NorthWoodsDiver

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I own quite a few scubapro MK17 regs and will soon be needing/wanting a tank dedicated to 100% O2 and was hoping I could convert a mk17/S600 to O2 clean. Has anyone done this, do scubapro techs have the parts necessary to do this, or is it just easier to pick up a dive rite reg for 100% O2 use as I have no intention of owning anymore scubapro regs cause I want to start doing my own reg service which is made more complicated through scubapro's products. Thanks
 
Hello NWD,

I service my own regulators and they too are all SP, I buy most of my parts on eBay except 0-rings that I get from O-Rings, Inc. Since 1958 - Buy Online Now, to your question. Because for 100 % O2 use your depth is severely limited. Therefore, dedicating a MK 17 to that service would be wasteful. Moreover, there are regulators much more suitable.

My recommendation for O2 use is a simple non balanced piston 1st stage such as the Scuba Pro MK 2 (or Aqualung Calypso, Mares R2, Sherwood Brut and a few others.) This simple design is usually inexpensive, nearly bullet proof, easy to get parts for and easy and inexpensive to service. It is also easy to DIY because it requires only a few o-rings and a seat.


edit: I see you live near the North Pole, so get an enviro sealed un-balanced piston.
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I wanted to shy away from piston regs just for that reason, the cold caused me to switch over to all sealed non piston regs like the mk17. My next option was gonna be the dive rite regs as they are sealed and with the cold water kits are nearly impossible to freeze. if a mk2 will work in water around 37 degrees I am game but until then its probably worth more for me to get a spendy reg.
 
Something to keep in mind, once at your 100% O2 stop then water most times is warmer. Above the thermocline, even in Lake Superior.
Al
 
I had my mk17 serviced for O2 by my LDS. I believe the MK17 nitrox upgrade is actually O2 compatible - although, I'm not 100% sure. The tech may have replaced some parts for the kit.

I don't see how using the 17 is a waste. I like having a good reg at 20' as well as at 200'. I got it new, and really cheap.
 
SP uses EPDM o-rings and christolube in everything anyway, so as long as it is properly cleaned you should be good to go.

The qualification here is the same one that applies to any diaphragm reg used for O2 service. You have that enormous diaphragm that will potentially be a fuel source if an o2 fire occurs. What is worse is that if a fire occurs, the diapgram ends up being a route for flames to exit the reg on a large scale basis.

In contrast with a flow by piston reg like the Mk 2 or Calypso, all you have are a couple o-rings exposed to 100% O2 and if they get charred you still have very little fuel and fairly tight clearances so what you get is a flash fire inside the reg and then a leaking reg - not one spurting flames.

People always seem to be trying to use diaphragm regs in applications where they do not make sense and a deco reg for 100% O2 use is a prime example. Realistically, the Mk 2 works great on ice dives, so as long as you are not using medical O2 (it potentially has more moisture than aviator or welding O2) you will not have freezing issues (and if you use medical grade O2 with higher moisture content, your diaphragm is not protecting the inside of your reg anyway).

Plus, cold water usually has thermoclines so your 20 ft stop is usually going to be 40 degrees or higher where freezing is less of a concern. Also, your workload is by definition lower than on the bottom so the lower flow rate provides a much higher margin to prevent the reg from freezing up.

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Your Scubapro versus Aqualung/Apeks self service argument is actually not valid. Aqualung/Apeks also controls their parts and in fact does so far better than Scubapro. Go on e-bay any given day and you will find at least a dozen Scubapro kits for sale compared to usually zero for Aqualung or Apeks. They rarely show up for sale and Aqualung/Apeks will not even sell kits to former dealers trying to honor customer warranties. So if you think owning Apeks will make servicing your regs easier over the long term, you are mistaken.

If you are into DIY servicing, Scubapro is THE brand to have as:

1. parts are readily available from a variety of sources,
2. specialty tools for them are available from 3rd party sources,
3. SP has a track record of supporting discontinued regs for decades, and
4. SP uses just a few kits for all their regs with most sharing common parts and o-rings making logistics a lot easier.
 
Thanks that was very informative, I was looking at dive rite regs only because they come from the factory already setup with O2 compatible parts/lube and the kits are available right on the dive rite express website.

If its a mk2 that gets the popular vote, I have one and I assume a good R190 will be compatible as well and that I already own but I might pick up a green second stage with green hose just for kicks and to instill that it is a O2 reg.

I would like to know where you are finding scubapro tools so easilly. Although I have seen a few on ebay its not usually what I am looking for and scubatools.com is gone for now. The only other source I know of for any scuba related tools is northeast scuba supply and they dont have a very good site so I dont know much of what they have or any prices.

I was into DIY reg service before but now after paying over $400 to have 5 mk17's, 1 mk25, 5 S600's, and 1 R190, and 2 Air 2's serviced I plan to do my own. Probably cant save myself all that much $$$ and I certainly dont have experience tearing down regs but I'm sure I can pick it up. The biggest advantage I see is saving on parts, my tech takes everything out and replaces it with new even if not necessary cause thats how scubapro runs things and then he wont even give me the old kits. I hate that political crap.
 
I forgot to ask if the mk2 is available in DIN, I have never really noticed I guess. ANyone have one for sale??
 
I think I saw one with DIN on ebay recently. Scubatools is either back on line now or will be shortly. The MK2 is a very easy reg for DIY, you'll only need a couple of o-rings and I believe the seat would last several years given the limited use you plan for it. I assume you won't be diving with O2 every day.
 
The next question is on an O2 reg do you prefer the button gauges or a 1.5 inch gauge on 6 inch hose. I'm leaning towards the button gauge since its onsale at dive rite express.
 
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