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Are you insane!? I have dove all over these areas. What you say makes NO SENSE!!!:shakehead:

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Sheck Exley Kal

I agree with everything you have said here. For quarry diving I always bring a couple of 80s with air and/or light mix with me as well as the deco bottles,, in case I desire to save my backgas or need to power my booster. The issue at a quarry is that below the thermocline the temp is about 42...

Come to the midwest and I would be happy to take you quarry diving. You would then notice that a quarry is much more benign than the ocean. You don't have to worry about: getting blown out to sea, tide, surge, current, dangerous animals, falling to thousands of feet deep,salt eating up O...

Why do you insist that I have no other choice of gas? Bail out bottle, buddy, go up a few feet. These are all logical and available choices in a quarry. Do you guys never dive a quarry? Kal

Your assumption is flawed. This insructor is not DSAT savy. He thought it ,,,Jr. high level... But we all dive at our level of comfort and he allowed me to. Because there are divers that will be more advanced and more seasonsed than you or I will EVER be that have died because they didn't...

So you think nereas is crazy... nice. Kal

What part don't you believe? What part is "trolling" . Please be specific. Kal

So why did you bring it up? .So I'm forced to not have redunancy on my stage. Thanks.Why do you insist it is non-redundant? Oh yeah, once again a restriction you want to lay on me. Wild guess I guess. Sure, say don't do this , don't do that because it's not as safe as I do it. Here is what...

Do you think this procedure goes against the manual? Do you think I have only had one instructor covering one agency? Do you think I havn't been honest to one diver that has contacted me on PM? You boys are likely as one writer said, "fanatics". Kal

I explained this to my tech instructor,,, his advice, I can save my backgas if I desire and that is not dangerous. It is not a problem to have a side bottle with a lower MOD than my backgas. If your not comfortable breathing your side bottles you shouldn't take em. But then, he dives a...

Say, your backgas has 32%. You go to the local quarry, max depth 110 ft. But, darn it is closed. You go somewhere else, 140 ft. depth, but they have no gas for you. Well, can you still go to the bottom safely. Sure, multiple bottles. Is it ideal, nope. Is it doable and safe, I would submit...

I am sure you are aware that some people have gotten bent even though they stayed within all the computer parameters. There are some divers that add cushion to their dive even though "they don't need it". I never said this is the safest way. It is practical if your somewhere where you can't...

30 ft. would get you to the MOD of the backgas. If the side bottle popped you could easily get there. Or go on the pony,, or to your buddy. If this is uncomfortable for you,,, then say no. Dive at your level of comfort. I'm not stopping you or yanking your chain about it. The original point...

You say we need fully redundant gas supplies,, doesn't that mean enough gas to get me to the surface safely? Why wouldn't a pony do that? Why can I now not have a buddy? Why can I now not ascend a little, at the bottom of this quarry is nothing to hang myself up on. Why do you restrict me...

:Don't people dive singles all the time yet still have redundancy? Like, backup bottles,other divers, the option to ascend a little? Do the bottles have to be manifolded to be considered redundant? What about sidemount divers? Their bottles are not manifolded. Kal

You seem to think that breathing a stage at the bottom of a quarry means there is no redundance, this is not so. If I am restricted to only breathing my backgas in a quarry then I find that too restrictive. Sorry the term 'restrictive' pushed a button ( I did not mean it to be mean spirited, I...

If you can clip it off that's nice. Some don't trust that in some situations. Kal

Well, I didn't say your def does not cover rec cave. I didn't say the diver is neccessarily carrying the O2. I appreciate your restrictive diving, good for you. But to assume if someone doesn't maintain your tight practices is not a tech diver is likely not true. Obviously you feel the...