EdMcNeill09
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I expect you are correct. It will likely be a very simple class though. Possibly an elearning and a couple of shallow dives. It will be interesting to see what PADI and other agencies do about this.
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EdMcNeill09
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Try Avelo was announced to the Avelo Dive Centers today. Each Dive Center will decide how and when to offer it. And to who.
Try Avelo is essentially the briefing that follows elearning, assembling of gear, a quick review and the first dive of the certification. After the dive the student can opt to convert their experience into the Certification by doing the second dive of the certification, the remainder of the typical class experience, and complete the elearning within 14 days.
Here in Honolulu I offer this on a 10:30am charter. We do the first tank on Avelo and if the diver chooses to we then complete the in water training for the Certification.
I have already been doing Try Avelo as part of a Pilot Program. It's a blast to teach and very well received.
Instructors who can offer Try Avelo have to have certified a minimum of 5 Avelo Divers. This is a minimum of course. the concern here is to ensure the diver experience is as good as can be. The more you teach Avelo the easier it gets to sort out the weighting. Getting the weight right is absolutely key to having a great experience.
Try Avelo is essentially the briefing that follows elearning, assembling of gear, a quick review and the first dive of the certification. After the dive the student can opt to convert their experience into the Certification by doing the second dive of the certification, the remainder of the typical class experience, and complete the elearning within 14 days.
Here in Honolulu I offer this on a 10:30am charter. We do the first tank on Avelo and if the diver chooses to we then complete the in water training for the Certification.
I have already been doing Try Avelo as part of a Pilot Program. It's a blast to teach and very well received.
Instructors who can offer Try Avelo have to have certified a minimum of 5 Avelo Divers. This is a minimum of course. the concern here is to ensure the diver experience is as good as can be. The more you teach Avelo the easier it gets to sort out the weighting. Getting the weight right is absolutely key to having a great experience.
Knowing the buoyancy with empty 10 L tank would make this trivial for experienced divers who already know how to mix & match their components. Can you say what that might be?
EdMcNeill09
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Going from an Aluminum 80 to a HP steel 100 is very simple. It's not like that. You're also changing your BCD and no longer dealing with a bag of air.
Avelo Divers enter the water with swimmers buoyancy. It has little to do with the tank at all. We want to be weighted so that we are barely buoyant. like 1 lb buoyant. Figuring out how much weight has to do with the body type and size and the wetsuit thickness, size, and age. Actually the biggest variable is the wetsuit age in terms of number of dives. I wear a 5mm XXL wetsuit and on Avelo when my wetsuit is brand new I need 5 lbs. After a couple of hundred dives I need 2lbs or less.
The first thing we do on the first dive is test the weighting. The formula we use is pretty good. but it almost always needs a little adjustment. When we get it right it's amazing.
It certainly is like that. You're targeting +2 lb on the surface when full. Subtract what you no longer have, add for the new, and adjust for the surface reference point. Again, would you please share the Avelo buoyancy value?
Still Kicking
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Congrats on the course. I am sure new divers will enjoy.
But it's hardly the only way for new divers to experience neutral buoyancy.
I took my 18-year-old neice and nephew in the pool the other day for a DSD (no prior experience). I gave them the orientation, showed them how to use an inflator and explained exactly when to stop releasing air from the BC for neutral buoyancy. They were neutral from the first minute -- swimming around the pool like fish, having a blast.
So easy and no special equipment required. Beats me why some instructors make it so hard.
EdMcNeill09
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Nice job. I taught a newly certified Diver (7 dives on standard) Avelo. She did another 7 dives on Avelo and absolutely loved it. Then she was back on Island and I didn't have any Avelo tanks available the day she wanted to dive. So we dove standard. I was absolutely shocked at how locked in she was. her trim and buoyancy was pro grade. I kid you not.
I asked her about it and she tole me that Avelo taught her what neutral felt like and it was relatively easy for her to get neutral on standard. This is a story that we're hearing from other Avelo Instructors.
Learning neutral buoyancy is the hardest thing for new divers. Avelo makes it easier.
Still Kicking
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It's absolutely easy on standard scuba too if you show them how to do it (stop releasing air from BC when head goes underwater...exhale).
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