"WHY DIVERS DIE " PANEL - SCUBA SHOW SAT @ 4PM (room Seaside #1)
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They weren't really going for subtle, we're they?
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Ken Kurtis
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Your point being . . . ????
It just seems like a severe lecture title. Like maybe Vincent Price should be reading the article.
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In all seriousness, deliberately so. This is a sport where, when things go wrong, your life is literally in danger. I see you're in NYC, so you may not be familiar with the Scuba Show, which is the largest consumer-oriented show west of the Mississippi. (West Coast equivalent to Beneath the Sea.) It seems within the scuba industry, there's a reluctance to really educate people about why divers have died during dives. In this particular instance, since I'm the scuba consultant to the LA County Corner and I work closely with the Catalina Hyperbaric Chamber, we're in a unique position to be able to present actual, factual information (Coroner cases in CA are matters of public record) about the accident, give actual, factual information about what the Chamber tried to do (not all of these people make it to the Chamber but the Chamber may still have been mobilized to respond), then I give the instructional lessons that it present, and we conclude back with the Coroner listing the official cause of death (and why). We've been presenting this annually for 15 years or so. We view it as a public service to the SoCal diving community and it's usually fairly well-attended. Each year we review the fatalities that happened with our jurisdiction for the previous calendar year. (We average 4-5/year.)
Because the Scuba Show was virtual the last two years, we did the presentation via web and its still up. If you're interested in seeing the 2021 presentation (covering the 2020 fatalities), you should be able to access it through this link:
Scuba Show - 2021 Panel: Why Divers Die - A Review of Diving Fatalities in LA County in 2020 | Facebook
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I myself am not a scuba diver, but in your " WHY DIVERS DIE" panel your last case the 45 yr old male diver was a Doctor. In fact one of America's 50 top surgeons, he was a Neurosurgeon and spine surgeon specializing in deformities. He was also my cousin, now all. No is what he would tell me and what I have read about since his accident. Now myself as well as the rest of our family have concerns from what we know his accident was severe. Now without saying much how does a person his field who was not an experienced diver was actually a beginner diver and was with an instructor who was his dive buddy, I believe a nite dive is what he was working to get certification for. Now our concern is that the 2 people with him seconds and hours before he went in to the water well have some duty of due diligence a duty to be responsible for each other especially the instructor.
All in all I think it's unfortunate that there are so many divers who dont take this seriously, who think a dive buddy isnt what it is and have such bad attitudes when others are just giving helpful useful life saving information and educating others to the importance of scuba diving safety & awareness. Refresher courses and reminding each other and just looking out for each other is the right thing to do. It's rude how some will make sarcastic comments like the one above who said Vincent price should be lecturing, that's childish. Until it's their own life or a loved one they will never care. I thank you for the information and for how well the cases were presented. I hope if there is any advice or help you can give us that u inbox me. Thank you again
All in all I think it's unfortunate that there are so many divers who dont take this seriously, who think a dive buddy isnt what it is and have such bad attitudes when others are just giving helpful useful life saving information and educating others to the importance of scuba diving safety & awareness. Refresher courses and reminding each other and just looking out for each other is the right thing to do. It's rude how some will make sarcastic comments like the one above who said Vincent price should be lecturing, that's childish. Until it's their own life or a loved one they will never care. I thank you for the information and for how well the cases were presented. I hope if there is any advice or help you can give us that u inbox me. Thank you again
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Ken Kurtis
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Sorry for your loss and thanks for the kind words.
We are fully aware that family members may sometimes see these presentations and one thing I like about working specifically with the L.A. County Coroner is we have a directive of NOT trying to play the blame game. We try to simply lay out what our findings were, perhaps suggest some scenarios to be considered, and leave it to others to draw conclusions.
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