Diving and flying

[tursiops]

I understand anyway that it is mandatory to follow this rule

Not sure what you mean by "mandatory." Normally that would mean there is a penalty for not doing it. Who issues this penalty? By the way, DAN US covers you whether you were stupid or not; I don't know what DAN europe does.

 

[Sbiriguda]

Not sure what you mean by "mandatory." Normally that would mean there is a penalty for not doing it. Who issues this penalty? By the way, DAN US covers you whether you were stupid or not; I don't know what DAN europe does.

I mean, it's not only wise advice like "do not go 35 meters if you are licenced for 30 meters" it's really that you risk to die or serious illness. As for the DAN, it works like an insurance, so I am not sure they will pay the expenses if you take unnecessary risks.

A Covered Dive means a recreational dive or diving while a scuba instructor, dive master, underwater photographer, or while performing research under the auspices and following the diving safety guidelines equivalent to the American Academy of Underwater Scientists (AAUS).

DAN DAN World : Frequently Asked Questions

Here they speak about scientists, but I think there must be a similar limitation if you are a recreational diver. What if you are OW and have an accident well below the limit of 18 meters, let's say at 50m, would they pay? I don't think so

 

[tursiops]

I mean, it's not only wise advice like "do not go 35 meters if you are licenced for 30 meters" it's really that you risk to die or serious illness. As for the DAN, it works like an insurance, so I am not sure they will pay the expenses if you take unnecessary risks.



DAN DAN World : Frequently Asked Questions

Here they speak about scientists, but I think there must be a similar limitation if you are a recreational diver. What if you are OW and have an accident well below the limit of 18 meters, let's say at 50m, would they pay? I don't think so

I'll say it again. DAN US does not care how deep you go or if you get right on an airplane after diving; they will cover you. The only restriction is that you must be a recreational diver....professionals and science research are OK.
Don't guess; check with DAN.

 

[Sbiriguda]

Thanks for this explanation too tursiops I will check with DAN
Well that is good news even if I hope I will never need it. And it also makes DAN significantly better than other alternative travel insurances. Apart from the fact the DAN is anyway one of the few specifically conceived for scuba

 

[Angelo Farina]

That is not good, I didn't notice that DAN Europe has such very strict recommendations that go beyond PADI and DAN America. In theory, if PADI and DAN America consider this type of dive safe, nothing should happen. But if something does happen, I suspect DAN Europe would not pay the very high expenses for the hyperbaric chamber because the dive was outside its own standards. So the best would be to apply the DAN Europe recommendations...

I do not see what the "high expenses for the hyperbaric chamber" could be: after a flight back form Red Sea to Italy,
when you land here and you have the bends, your are transported to the nearest hospital equipped with an hyperbaric chamber, and get full treatment, all completely free.
It is called the National Health System. I understand that this is only available in civil countries, not in the USA.
Said that, when I did subscribe to DAN and I checked the rules, I understood that they cover any expense required for treatment and for coming back home, even if some "safety" rule was not respected.

 

[Angelo Farina]

Thanks for this post too
The advantage of scuba diving in a dive as shallow as 6 meters deep is probably on underwater photography.

This is exactly the purpose for which we did use the ARO in the eighties. My wife was passionate of macrophotography. Using a CC rebreather you can be fully neutral, as when breathing your buoyancy does not change. And you are almost entirely silent (if you pay attention not to release bubbles form the mask), so delicate marine animals, such as madreporians, parazoanthus axinellae, spirographs, anemones, etc. do not retract as it happens when you exhale bubbles.
Spending an hour doing these macro photos in shallow water can be really nice using an ARO...
Also fish is not scared: you stay completely immobile and silent, and slowly some fishes will be curious and will come very close for inspecting you... Or you can bring some food for them, they will come eating in your hands...
It is a "slow" way of diving, something of the past, very relaxing and rewarding if you take it with the proper mood.

 

[NothingClever]

I understand that this is only available in civil countries, not in the USA.

I think it's a bit impolite to insult entire countries in an international forum.

 

[Angelo Farina]

I think it's a bit impolite to insult entire countries in an international forum.

Sorry, again my poor mastering of English language kicked in..
What proper adjective do you suggest for countries where no free public health system is available?
No polemics, I am just trying to improve my English, really. I sometimes make this kind of translation errors...
Recently I made a similar translation error with the word "lazy", discovering that in some countries it is an insult (being lazy, instead, is considered a quite nice attribute of a person here - I am VERY LAZY, and very proud of it).

 

[Sbiriguda]

(being lazy, instead, is considered a quite nice attribute of a person here - I am VERY LAZY, and very proud of it).

Haha LOL my mom would not endorse that, I still remember what used to happen if I wanted to sleep late in the morning back when I had to go school

 

[Sbiriguda]

I do not see what the "high expenses for the hyperbaric chamber" could be: after a flight back form Red Sea to Italy,
when you land here and you have the bends, your are transported to the nearest hospital equipped with an hyperbaric chamber, and get full treatment, all completely free.
It is called the National Health System.

In this case yes, but I had in my mind also the possibility of going to the hyperbaric chamber of doctor Adel in Sharm el Sheikh if you get the bends in Egypt before flying