Intro to Tech, to make a better Rec?

[Compressor]

Where is the "Love" button?

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Great post. So so true. Very refreshing.

As a similar and alternative to the analogy used earlier about communism and religion, here is my analogy(Trekkies out there will get it quick): You don't have to be assimilated into the collective. The Borg does not have rule your lives.

"when the 'lack of rigor' from other agencies came up in casual conversation after the class, it came down to as long as they are acting in a safe manner then its 'not my monkeys, not my circus'. we were repeatedly warned not to be 'DIR Warriors', to not disparage other teaching styles, and to just go out and dive more. if someone wants to learn more about your diving style, answer their questions truthfully and honestly, but please don’t go around proselytizing to anyone and everyone in ear shot."


I wish people would take this advice. Its their system; my GUE instructor told me we want people to dive like us because its the best system out there but don't force others into it. I did take issue with the statement about being the best system out there but kept quiet as that is hubris.

 

[AlexL]

but... lucutus was assimilated... and put the entire federation into grave peril. perhaps a 7 of 9 meme would be more appropriate? 3 of 5 / hugh might be too detailed of a reference to get. </nerd>

my GUE instructor told me we want people to dive like us because its the best system out there but don't force others into it. I did take issue with the statement about being the best system out there but kept quiet as that is hubris.

we sort of had the same discussion, but with a softer touch and less blanket statements. the GUE standard rig is the 'best' for what GUE needs: redundant, reliable, and standard rigs for the widest application of exposures: everything from shallow min deco profiles on a reef, to penetrating thousands of feet into a cave, to doing deep research dives with more deco than bottom time, all with and without scooters. it was explained that if another rig was 'better' for the mission then its completely valid to use something else, as long as the team is unified and properly trained on its use, but that those are very rare exceptions. as with your views, 'best rig ever!' i can't agree with, but 'best for what we do' i can buy in to.

same thing went for the one major exception i took during fundies, the choice of 20/85 GFs as a prescribed standard. i brought up my concerns, we discussed the history, a bit about bubble models and how they are being phased out, the typical profiles involved in typical GUE technical dives, our instructor's tendency to be first one in the chamber out of the group, the NEDU study, and then came back to consensus with 20/85 as a good starting point, but that tweaking GFs for the dive profiles (MDL) involved for fundies level divers was pretty much inconsequential. having said that, our discussion then turned to that if your body does not like your ascent profile, listen to your body and change things till its happy. so our ascent profiles include additional time padding at 20' and 10', with as slow ascents from 10' to surface as practical.

 

[stuartv]

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[Centrals]

I'm a Cold Warrior...I think you could deduce how I feel about communism.

Country Joe McDonald:
"Now you can go out and get those reds.
Cause the only good commie is the one that's dead"

An anti-war song back in the 60s.

 

[PfcAJ]

I have a couple of stories about this:

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Each diver is ultimately responsible for their own plan.

If a diver decides to use air for a 30ft dive I don't think anyone should give them any grief. Sometimes the valve-turners are unreasonable.

I've got no problem with someone vetoing a tech dive because they don't want to use a set of gases. Option 1 always exists and no one should be punked into doing s dive they don't feel comfortable with. However you have to live with the consequences of potentially not being invited back on a future project. You're under no obligation to dive with everyone.

 

[stuartv]

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[_Ralph]

For a dive for the course? Ummm, yup.

Remember, it isn't a check the box "you did it once" kinda course


_R

 

[stuartv]

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[_Ralph]

Chill, different letters with different requirements. This one required it.


_R

 

[PfcAJ]

For a dive for the course? Ummm, yup.

Part of Fundamentals is breathing gas, which incorporates Nitrox. So, if you aren't breathing nitrox, how can you pass the nitrox portion of the class?

Remember, it isn't a check the box "you did it once" kinda course


_R

Good catch, I missed that. For class I think students should you the gas and equipment prescribed in the standards.

Post class, bugger off with that "nitrox for a 30ft dive" mess.