Why does this exist?

[andyw70]

Might help disabled people to discover scuba who wouldn't normally get the chance or be an extra safety net for the disabled

Andy

 

[RJP]

As with any product, the real marketing challenge is determining WHO it is for. It's not for everyone (no product is) but there's no clear indication as to who it IS for... or why.

 

[Dirty-Dog]

"SUBA® contributes massively to the productivity and enjoyment of diving by leaving the diver largely free from constant (often irksome and complex) monitoring and checking of vital dive parameters."

If monitoring your life support systems is too irksome and complex, you clearly lack the mental capacity to safely execute even the most simple of recreational dives.

I'm willing to bet that when the BCD was first developed, someone said "If proper weighting is too irksome and complex, you clearly lack the mental capacity to safely execute even the most simple of recreational dives" or something very similar...

A BCD is not a life support system. I would have thought that a divemaster (who might reasonably be expect to have an "actual clue") wouldn't need to have this pointed out.

A BCD is an optional device that allows a person to dive with less skill than is needed to dive without one.

Just like this gizmo.

I don't personally have any desire for one, but I can see how it could possibly be useful for DSD divers and for disabled divers.

 

[JohnnyC]

I'm willing to bet that when the BCD was first developed, someone said "If proper weighting is too irksome and complex, you clearly lack the mental capacity to safely execute even the most simple of recreational dives" or something very similar...

A BCD is not a life support system. I would have thought that a divemaster (who might reasonably be expect to have an "actual clue") wouldn't need to have this pointed out.

A BCD is an optional device that allows a person to dive with less skill than is needed to dive without one.

Just like this gizmo.

I don't personally have any desire for one, but I can see how it could possibly be useful for DSD divers and for disabled divers.

Glad you took the opportunity to try and insult my intelligence.

To a new diver, a BCD is absolutely a piece of life support equipment. And one that makes decisions for a new diver, whose sole responsibility as a new diver is to develop the skills to keep themselves alive, is absolutely dangerous. The need to develop the skills to be safe divers, this takes away that need, creates complacency, and this piece of gear could very well do something dangerous, and someone who doesn't recognize that action as such, could blindly follow it to their own demise.

I would have thought that a "DIR-Practitioner" (who might reasonably be expectED to have an "actual clue") wouldn't need to have this pointed out.

 

[Seya]

They make self driving cars. Technology is powerful and people will always invent new stuff. Sometimes stuff works and sometimes it doesnt

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[kwinter]

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[Dirty-Dog]

Glad you took the opportunity to try and insult my intelligence.

I'm not insulting anything... it's YOUR post...

To a new diver, a BCD is absolutely a piece of life support equipment.

No. It's not. Even if you repeat the statement a third time, it still won't be.
Lots and lots of people learned to dive without BCDs. The lack of a BCD obviously didn't kill them.
I've been on a dive with a failed inflator, which meant a non-functioning BCD. I didn't die. Didn't even come close. The dive guide knew (because he saw me tinkering with it in the water), but nobody else even knew my BCD wasn't working till we got back on the boat and I started swapping out the inflator.
A BCD is not even remotely required to stay alive.

Maybe the problem is that you don't understand what "life support" means?

I would have thought that a "DIR-Practitioner" (who might reasonably be expectED to have an "actual clue") wouldn't need to have this pointed out.

Oh look! A typo flame!

How cute.

 

[JohnnyC]

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You fail to understand the fact that this device automatically makes choices for you, and then acts upon them without your input. It is a completely different idea that diving without a BCD or a non-functioning BCD.

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. If you focused on critical thinking skills instead of trying to be a dick you might understand the issue.

I bet you just loved that BCD that decided when you weren't breathing enough and fully inflated, sending the diver to the surface like a Posiedon.

 

[Bob DBF]

To a new diver, a BCD is absolutely a piece of life support equipment.

Which I see as a problem with OW, and possibly why most new divers are over weighted.

And one that makes decisions for a new diver, whose sole responsibility as a new diver is to develop the skills to keep themselves alive, is absolutely dangerous. The need to develop the skills to be safe divers, this takes away that need, creates complacency, and this piece of gear could very well do something dangerous, and someone who doesn't recognize that action as such, could blindly follow it to their own demise.

Like being dependant on a BC as life support while diving.

One is automatic and one is manual, both can fail and without basic skills and the diver could blindly follow it to their own demise. Of course I'm getting old, and crankey, so I have to say I fail to see the difference. Having learned SCUBA without a BC, I learned a lot more about weighting and buoyancy than I could have with an "elevator" button. It came in handy more than once.



Bob
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I may be old, but I'm not dead yet.

 

[RJP]

Of course I'm getting old, and crankey, so I have to say I fail to see the difference. Having learned SCUBA without a BC, I learned a lot more about weighting and buoyancy than I could have with an "elevator" button. It came in handy more than once.
I may be old, but I'm not dead yet.

But at least you wear your mask on your forehead...