bp/w advice - OxyCheq, others..

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My 18# tropical wing is in digital camo.

The ironic reason I went with camo is so that it'll stand out among all the black gear.
 
A couple quick points

As others have noted wing bladders are typically a "2D" item, produced by RF welding two flat sheets together. Wing shells are typically a "3D" assembly more like a tailored suit, made out of multiple elements sewn together. If a typical bladder is laid over a wing shell it will be a bit larger in overall outline. This is required so that the shell, like the tire casing on a bicycle, is fully inflated before the bladder material is stretched, much like an inner tube is a bit larger than the tire it fills. Huge differences between the inner bladder and the shell can lead to convolutions that trap gas. DSS uses a unique pattern and RF welding die for each model wing.

At DSS we determine wing capacity as follows:

1) Weigh an empty wing.

2)Assemble it to a back plate with a cylinder. We use 8 inch cylinders as they will limit inflation slightly more than smaller diam tanks.

3) Fill the wing to point where the OPV is venting with water.

4) Remove the full wing and weigh it a 2nd time.

5) Subtract the first weight from the 2nd. The difference represents the weight of the water added, and that directly represents the lift capacity of the wing.

When a DSS wing is mounted to a plate with a tank in place the maximum inflation volume is constrained by the plate and cylinder, but it is this lesser volume we use to rate the lift capacity, not the capacity of the wing in the "free" or unmounted condition.

Tobin
 
Update, finally found some time to pull the wings apart, the 30lb was seized solid so only the 18 and 40 came apart. Looks like I don't need to eat one my wings which is lucky as I'm not feeling particularly hungry. As you can see from the photos the 40 bladder is considerably bigger than the 18. I'm not surprised given outer dimensions of both. The great Oxycheq mystery is solved. We can all sleep better tonight. Cheers.

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The only thing good about Oxycheq are their wings. The Mach V series are very good wing, arguably the best thing currently in the industry at this time. They have a 360 loop zipper so you can unzip the outer shell to access the liner for cleaning, inspection, and repairs. They are very tough, especially with the extreme series, and they are streamlined. I've been using a 40# M5 for years now (ever since they came out) and have had zero problems. I also like the fact that the inflator elbow comes out of the left side and not the center since I use a very low profile plate and don't like the idea of the inflator interfering with the regulator.
I used to be an Oxycheq dealer so I know how they are with customere service (me as a dealer). As long as I was buying and had no problems or returns, fine. But as soon as I started having problems with a bunch of lights (I was selling) they were MIA, didn't want to hear it, pretended they weren't getting e-mails, wouldn't own up to the fact that the lights they ordered and had made in China absolutely sucked! Every single one of them failed, some before they even hit the water. But that was their lights not the wings, the wings rule and as far as I'm concerned is one of the only things they have that is of any value. Their harness kits are good too. The only thing about them is I don't fully care for the buckle but it will do. For a while they had some really stout ones that were great, but I haven't seen those in a long time. Their cam bands are OK but I like the Dive Rite ones better. They are the same buckle and band (made in the same plant) but Dive Rite has a better tank protector cushion that they added so the tank doesn't get all scarfed up when you snap the cam buckles down.
Oxycheq plates are just generic plates like anybody else, nothing particularly special about them. Any plate of that type will do. Dive Rite has good plates if you can get one somewhere at a decent price. So does DRIS or Hog or many others. I'd just shop for price on the plate because once they're set up and on your back you're not going to be able to tell the difference from one to another. They are all slightly different in outer shape, bend angle, etc., but the differences are so slight it's not day and night by any means, and for all practical purposes is undescernable.
My last piece of advice is to just get a simple one piece Hog harness (one continuous length of webbing with a few D-rings). You don't need the fancy deluxe harness. It gets away from what the whole concept of a BP/W is supposed to be in the first place, simple.
You also don't need a STA, teh Oxycheq wings have side cushions that line up the plate to the wing/tank and everything centers up when you cinch down the cam bands.

Good luck!
 
OP here... I ended up getting the Oxycheq Mark V 40# wing yesterday at NESS. The comments about being id'd underwater by your buddy made sense to me, so I skipped the typical black or blue wings and went with the brilliant orange color. I may scare away the fish, but it'll be hard to miss my rig on the boat or in the water.

To be honest, I'm amazed the range of prices for stainless steel backplates that seem virtually identical. I ended up getting a Blue Reef S/S plate (5.5lbs) for $70 and will put it all together with a used TransPlate harness and used cam-bands. Seems like a reasonable starter rig for me.

Thanks again for the collective wisdom and advice.
 
Doesn't need to be your starter, could also be your finisher, says me who's gone through numerous plates and wings lol. Enjoy ya new gear.
*I* know how you meant this, but wife just pointed out that a bad set-up could also be my "finisher"!! :shocked2:

(She doesn't dive, doh.)
 
Like budda said, the bp and wing don't have to be final. I persoanlly went though 5 or 6 plates of different size, shape and material, 4 different brands of wings, only then come to my "I believe" final setup. None are bad in any sense, just each has subtle difference that I can notice in a dive. And since your wife doesn't dive, she doesn't have to know you switch plates for wings. I bet she won't be able to tell
 
Sorry, I wasn't clear; my wife said Budda's comment could be interpreted as using wrong equipment underwater could "finish" me (for good!)
 
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