Deep diving advice that goes against conventional thought?

[PfcAJ]

I'm not worried about the guys commenting in this thread. Its the ones who haven't made a decision that I worry about.

 

[tomfcrist]

Jadairiii, are you implying that we don't understand narcosis? Or that we will be in the A&I because we dove air to 101'? Do you really think we are rookies in this sport?

I have a suggestion that would serve you and the WKKK guys well. You have your beliefs..that's cool. You want to dive mix below 100'..that's cool too. However when you try to spread your gospel, be realistic. Gue and the WKPP use helium mixes exclusively because they are in caves. Narcosis is unacceptably risky in that environment. But to transfer that logic to open ocean diving is just plain overkill. You want to know why people reject the DIR movement? It's because the people promoting it are generally fanatical cultists whom would suck the farts out of George or JJ's ass if they said it was DIR. That kind of blind acceptance is far more dangerous than diving air at 130'. Let's not forget that the bible writers of your philosophy were habitual deep air divers, and certain ones still glamorize it here on scubaboard.

 

[PfcAJ]

JBut to transfer that logic to open ocean diving is just plain overkill.

Its really not though. Plenty of GUE guys (and other folks, too) maintain sub100' ENDs for all their diving.

 

[chillyinCanada]

Geez Tom, calm down. Jadaii will be who he is until his A&I and ever after he'll be the s-word.



After all this time, how can we let these arrogant a$$ hats still get to us. And then let us not even mention some of the latest news in side mount. Nice to see that DIR can still "evolve".

 

[tomfcrist]

Geez Tom, calm down. Jadaii will be who he is until his A&I and ever after he'll be the s-word.



After all this time, how can we let these arrogant a$$ hats still get to us. And then let us not even mention some of the latest news in side mount. Nice to see that DIR can still "evolve".

I thought I was being rather eloquent.

JBut to transfer that logic to open ocean diving is just plain overkill.

Its really not though. Plenty of GUE guys (and other folks, too) maintain sub100' ENDs for all their diving.

Keep proving my point.

 

[jadairiii]

Jadairiii, are you implying that we don't understand narcosis? ....

Pretty clear from my post I was not “implying” anything, just stating a fact. But better yet your post proves my point, rather than state facts and show proof that “deep air” is “safe” you have to resort to ridiculous examples and equating the WKPP to the KKK. All class.

Your own actions prove your ignorance in this matter. But just in case, correct you don't understand narcosis.

 

[PfcAJ]

You can always tell when the jig is up when statements like "fanatical cultists whom would suck the farts out of George or JJ's ass" start creeping into the deep air proponents' posts.

Classic.

 

[danvolker]

Which side of this argument is supposed to be known for insults and mean spiritedness ?

 

[kr2y5]

Just curious... suppose I'm doing a multi-level wall dive to 130 feet in a place like Molokini, but there's current and surge or some other wave action at shallower depths that can negatively affect my buoyancy and is beyond my control. Assuming that I have dived to this depth before and have not experienced any dramatic impairment, would I be safer with Trimix on such a dive? I've always read that Helium, as a fast gas, is less forgiving to changes in buoyancy, and a mistake during ascent could put me at a risk of DCS. How does that risk weigh against the risk of narcosis?

 

[tomfcrist]

Which side of this argument is supposed to be known for insults and mean spiritedness ?

The port side.