Diving myths taught for safety?

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So, Last night I posted a question about holding your breath. I got the answer I suspected.

A few weeks ago, I asked about not having your light on when night diving, and got the answer I suspected.

The answers are: a novice should not, but with experience you can. There are dangers to it that, as a novice, is not worth the risk.

So, my new more broader question: What myths are taught that are like those already mentioned. They are taught to keep the new diver from dying, when in reality, it can be done safely IF you have more skill and you understand the reasoning behind it.
 
Never dive beyond your training.
Your regulator must be serviced per the manufacturer recommendations.
XYZ brand is junk.
The internet sells old/used/counterfeit gear.

BTW, such myths may not be just for diver safety. Some are also for instructor/LDS profit.

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Never dive beyond your training.
Your regulator must be serviced per the manufacturer recommendations.
XYZ brand is junk.
The internet sells old/used/counterfeit gear.

BTW, such myths may not be just for diver safety. Some are also for instructor/LDS profit. And sometime it is just easier (or more fun) to lie to them.
 
Hog looped long hoses will strangle you and your BP/W will push you face down on the surface and drown you. (And you have to have all black gear to dive with GUE divers!)
 
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So, Last night I posted a question about holding your breath. I got the answer I suspected.

Actually, the answers you received were more complex. Nobody said it was okay to hold your breath. Some differentiated that 'retaining an open glottis' negated the need to actively breath/exhale. This is VERY different to 'holding your breath'. It was then pointed out that there are solid reasons for the 'golden rule' of not holding your breath - namely to avoid fostering (or actively eliminate) any instinctive reaction the diver might have to hold their breath due to stress/panic.

Holding your breath being dangerous isn't a myth.

The reason I (amongst others) discourage too much discussion on issues such as 'glottis control' originates for this very reason. People read it and think 'well, darn... it IS okay to hold my breath'. Those people might then do something dumb enough to kill them.

For the record, shallowest recorded fatality from a lung over-expansion injury was 30cm. A guy stood up from the shallow end of a swimming pool while holding his breath on scuba. Read This: A Diving Fatality at Shallow Depth

To which 'myth' do you refer?

Torches are needed to illuminate on night dives. If ambient nocturnal light is sufficiently bright, you can conduct a dive using night vision. You cannot however use torch signals.

The answers are: a novice should not, but with experience you can. There are dangers to it that, as a novice, is not worth the risk.

Yes and no. Training permits a wider breadth of technique, equipment and activity. That said, some techniques remain less than optimum regardless of user experience.

You 'could' pick your nose with a claw hammer. With practice, you might get good at it. It'll never be accepted as a fundamentally safe or optimal idea though...

What myths are taught that are like those already mentioned. They are taught to keep the new diver from dying, when in reality, it can be done safely IF you have more skill and you understand the reasoning behind it.

Most dive agencies give the following advice: 'Dive within the limits of your training and experience". That is all... no myths, no BS.

...and don't hold your breath.

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Decompression Diving

never dive in an overhead environment

I don't believe any of these are mythical... or unilaterally prohibited... or considered dangerous.

Divers are recommended to seek appropriate training and have a prerequisite experience/competence before doing that however...

Same for solo diving now too....
 
I don't believe any of these are mythical... or unilaterally prohibited... or considered dangerous.

Divers are recommended to seek appropriate training and have a prerequisite experience/competence before doing that however...

Same for solo diving now too....

"never dive in an overhead environment" is a myth
"don't dive in an overhead environment until properly trained" is not a myth

..but yes, I understand your point :)
 
Actually, the answers you received were more complex. Nobody said it was okay to hold your breath. Some differentiated that 'retaining an open glottis' negated the need to actively breath/exhale. This is VERY different to 'holding your breath'. It was then pointed out that there are solid reasons for the 'golden rule' of not holding your breath - namely to avoid fostering (or actively eliminate) any instinctive reaction the diver might have to hold their breath due to stress/panic.

Holding your breath being dangerous isn't a myth.

The reason I (amongst others) discourage too much discussion on issues such as 'glottis control' originates for this very reason. People read it and think 'well, darn... it IS okay to hold my breath'. Those people might then do something dumb enough to kill them.

Most dive agencies give the following advice: 'Dive within the limits of your training and experience". That is all... no myths, no BS.

...and don't hold your breath.

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I don't believe any of these are mythical... or unilaterally prohibited... or considered dangerous.

Divers are recommended to seek appropriate training and have a prerequisite experience/competence before doing that however...

Same for solo diving now too....


I was generalizing. I do dive within my limits of experience and instruction.

Before I signed up for my AOW, I have dove to 90 feet, did a few night dives, did an ice diver course, solo dove....

How does one find their limit without hitting it? However, I am not going to do anything I know will kill me.
 
I was generalizing. I do dive within my limits of experience and instruction.

Before I signed up for my AOW, I have dove to 90 feet, did a few night dives, did an ice diver course, solo dove....

How does one find their limit without hitting it? However, I am not going to do anything I know will kill me.


When you are a new diver, you are told your limits. Once you have more experience, you know your limits.

It is up to you if you choose to ignore them. Many divers that ignore limits survive, many don't.
 
When you are a new diver, you are told your limits. Once you have more experience, you know your limits.

It is up to you if you choose to ignore them. Many divers that ignore limits survive, many don't.

I was told one thing I will never forget: There are no SCUBA police, so, yes you can do it, but it can kill you.

I would love to go really, really deep to see what is there. I would love to explore a cave. The reality is, I know that I do not know how to do it safely. So, I choose not to die.
 
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