Shore diving in doubles....

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Ulfhedinn

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Anyone shore dive doubles? Just want some tips or "hey we all been there" ideas. I dont have easy access to a boat as Im not made of money but want to get some exp in. Yes there is the pool and yes I will dive boats but I like options.

thanks
 
Get one of these Husky X Workbench tables, they work great for getting in and out of a set of doubles.
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Aside from that, take it easy and don't rush...
 
I do it regularly in double 100s. 130s are a bit more of a challenge, but doable. Second the workbench suggestion - I need to get one still for when I'm diving out of my RAV4 - just a little too low to be comfortable. Pickup bed is the perfect height.

-B
 
If it's a short walk to the water and no benches are available, I will just set up the tanks in the back of my SUV (a Jeep Liberty) and then set back down in the back of SUV before taking off the tanks. It minimizes the lifting and tank futzing, you never have to lift from ground level, and you can just lean forward and then use your leg muscles to stand upright with the vehicle available to stabilize your self.

If it's a long walk, or involves walking down a rip rapped shore line, you could consider independent doubles to allow you to carry the tanks and assembled regs separately and then assemble them in travel bands at the water line.

Of course, now that sidemount is so widely available, a sidemount system makes much more sense and gives you a variety of options. Carrying both tanks in sidemount to the water is an option and is easier/safer than back mounted doubles as your center of gravity is lower. If you plan to do that, the main requirement is to ensure you have an upper bolt snap so that the weight of the tank is not carried on the bungee (as they can break). You also have the option of using the harness to carry one tank at time to the water, or to just carry the tanks like you'd normally carry a single tank. With that approach, it's a lot like riding your bike in low gear - the effort is low, but you have to expend that effort for twice as long.

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Using smaller doubles for back mount is problematic and not always efficient. For example, I can double up a pair of steel 72s and have a fairly light set of doubles (29 pounds each, 58 pounds total and about 62 pounds total weight with an isolator manifold and bands), however at 2250 psi they only hold 65 cu ft each for a total of 130 cu ft, and an X8-130 only weighs 43 pounds. With AL 80s the doubles weight is about 67 pounds for a total of 154 cu ft - still not much more gas than a single 130 that weighs 24 pounds less. And that's not counting the additional weight of the extra first stage with the doubles.

You end up having to go with double X7-100s or larger to really start to see the pay off with doubles as they only weigh a couple more pounds than double AL 80s but have an honest 200 cu ft of gas.

In my opinion, X7-100s (33 pounds each) are the sweet spot for shore diving doubles - only about 5 pounds heavier than double 80s, but 46 cu ft more gas. Faber LP 95s (38 pounds each) pumped to 3600 psi (and 258 cu ft of gas) run distant second as they are 10 pounds heavier, but offer another 58 cu ft of gas - and are 10 pounds lighter than double 130s (260 cu ft of gas).
 
I shore dive regularly with my doubles (Faber HP 117cft). I've always done it from SUV, pick-ups or using picnic tables (if present in the area). As others have said, pick diving sites where you can park relatively close to the entry/exit points to minimize the walking.
 
Lots of folks do it here... I'm only aware of one of them breaking an ankle.

Be careful... that's a whack of weight.

(Being old, if I can't fall out of a boat to dive, screw it!)
 
I am in SoFla so what I have to say about shore dives with doublesmight be pretty local.
Problem #1
Drag.
But....We often go over 1/2 mile from shore and are in the water for four hours in 80f or warmer water.
You may not swim that much or spend that kind of time submerged.
Problem #2
Weight.
But if you are capable and the walk to the water is not so far, you might be fine.
Problem #3
Suiting up.
I have a Pickup , and yes, tailgates rock.

I do not dive doubles from shore.
I do not know anyone that does anymore down here.
Back in the 70's and early 80's there were a few people still using those little "Barbie Tanks" from shore.
I think they were called...."Steel 72's".

I and my pals use steel LP120's, HP 130's, and I own a Faber HP 149.
We have been know to ummm......"tweak" them to a slightly higher than stamped pressure.
But I assure you that is always an accident.

Chug
Likes no deadlines, no fees, and sand.
But HATES parking meters.
 
We shore dive in doubles all the time, but we don't have surf. We also don't have the killer walks to the water like the one to Laguna Beach.

There's a very active GUE crowd in Southern California, as well as a UTD bunch, and I would bet there are a lot of folks in those groups shore diving in doubles, who might have specific tips on doing it at Southern California sites. The only thing I can offer is that, if you get knocked down in the surf in doubles, you're likely to have to crawl out :)
 
I did about 200 dives in doubles in Laguna or otherwise locally going back to single tank only recently for scootering or tending my wife for some length in the surf zone which is not fun in doubles. If u don't have a platform on your car/truck, that table is the way to go.

I generally prefer Heisler, Crescent, Divers Cove, or Cleo St at Laguna when diving doubles because the walk isn't too bad nor is the sand trek. Shaws is deadly so I tend to enter it from the Crescent side if I must do so with doubles.

There are not many tricks. You put them on and make the walk and do it. For 2+ hour bottom times in the kelp it is worth it. Being able to actually spend some time at Deadmans is worth it. Suffering near exhaustion, onset heat stroke and jello legs is worth it.
 
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