Views on underwater hunting

What do you think of underwater hunting?

  • I am fiercely opposed to underwater hunting

    Votes: 24 13.2%
  • I don't do it myself, but I don't object if others do

    Votes: 48 26.4%
  • I would like to hunt underwater but have never done it

    Votes: 34 18.7%
  • I am an occasional underwater hunter

    Votes: 46 25.3%
  • I am an avid spearfisherman / lobster hunter

    Votes: 30 16.5%

  • Total voters
    182

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I remember when I was young, I had a plan to make billions by buying up worthless tundra in Northern Canada and waiting for Global Warming to hit. Bit of a variation of Gene Hackman's plan in Superman. Then someone told me that Global Warming would mean another ice age, so that buggered up that plan.
 
In Queensland, Australia we can't spear whilst on SCUBA. It's free-diving only.

Not really phased either way but then again I've never seen what a pack of spearfishermen on SCUBA can do so I suppose it's never affected me in a huge way.
 
I remember when I was young, I had a plan to make billions by buying up worthless tundra in Northern Canada and waiting for Global Warming to hit. Bit of a variation of Gene Hackman's plan in Superman. Then someone told me that Global Warming would mean another ice age, so that buggered up that plan.

We have a cabin in Northern Manitoba (closer to Nunavut/NWT than the US border). The lake was still ice free mid Nov. Unheard of.
 
So humans should cease eating all together? :coffee:
Is that what I said or implied? Are there any other choices? Is "sustainability" not a well-defined concept?

Here we can get back to Darwinian issues.. :D
The "Global Law" would be freedive harvesting only, for personal consumption.
Perhaps 5 to 10% of the world "could" do this effectively
Great idea--but can we phase it in? I'll need a little practice.
 
and then there is the nonsense of Global Warming, which is cherry picked data ( eliminating any year or decade that hurts the theory of Global warming) to prove something is taking place, when it is not....the real deal here is big money getting to change the game, and make huge money on the changes.
I don't know why global warming became a political issue--probably Al Gore's fault or perhaps it is a general distrust of scientists, and "elitists" in general, among roughly half of our electorate--but I will bet you are a Republican. Me too, but denial of science doesn't have to come with the territory. I have not reviewed the climate data or the climate models used by scientists--I am not qualified to form an intelligent opinion based on the raw data, and neither are you. Similarly, I do not know who is making huge money on the issue--and neither do you. In general, though, rich scientists make about as much as some of my lower-paid staff. What many divers do know from first-had experience is that coral reefs--even those in remote places somewhat insulated from many of the effects of civilization--are steadily deteriorating, and rising water temperature is probably the culprit in large-scale bleaching events.

Am curious why you think shell collecting is stupid
No stupider than my hobby of dragging thousands of dollars worth of gear around the world to take mediocre pictures that have been done many times before by better photographers.;)
 
I would underwater hunt. Eat what I kill. My BIL hunts (caribou, elk, deer, moose) twice yearly and fills our freezer. It's probably a lower carbon footprint in the long run. The meat in the freezer from one hunt saves countless trips to costco...plus all the other trappings of consumerism that comes with a trip to costco...
 
I would underwater hunt. Eat what I kill. My BIL hunts (caribou, elk, deer, moose) twice yearly and fills our freezer. It's probably a lower carbon footprint in the long run. The meat in the freezer from one hunt saves countless trips to costco...plus all the other trappings of consumerism that comes with a trip to costco...

+1, or whatever that means. We do Costco.
 
vladimir;5597548 No stupider than my hobby of dragging thousands of dollars worth of gear around the world to take mediocre pictures that have been done many times before by better photographers.;)[/QUOTE:
Wow, a stupid underwater photographer! And I have a camera ready for my Jan. Panama trip-- a gift from my wife. Nothing much to photograph in Nova Scotia, but I will have it clipped on my BC in Panama. I have 9,000 plus topside pics. since 1969.
So, PM me why you think shell-collecting is stupid. I am seriously interested.
 
I don't know why global warming became a political issue--probably Al Gore's fault or perhaps it is a general distrust of scientists, and "elitists" in general, among roughly half of our electorate--but I will bet you are a Republican. Me too, but denial of science doesn't have to come with the territory. I have not reviewed the climate data or the climate models used by scientists--I am not qualified to form an intelligent opinion based on the raw data, and neither are you. Similarly, I do not know who is making huge money on the issue--and neither do you. In general, though, rich scientists make about as much as some of my lower-paid staff. What many divers do know from first-had experience is that coral reefs--even those in remote places somewhat insulated from many of the effects of civilization--are steadily deteriorating, and rising water temperature is probably the culprit in large-scale bleaching events.

No stupider than my hobby of dragging thousands of dollars worth of gear around the world to take mediocre pictures that have been done many times before by better photographers.;)
Vladimir,
I am not anti science. I don't like how big corporations control science by the way grants are awarded. I don't like the way almost any food or drug company can PAY to have "scientific studies" proving the product to be good, when in fact it is not.
The comment I made about the money regarding global warming refers to the money in creating new technologies and the way this can keep big money ahead of the less advanced. It's about how big corporations maintain dominance by "changing" the rules of the game.
As to the data, there is a lot you and anyone here could easily understand....when you see the years that were removed from the trend studies on climate /temperature, and how specific locations around the globe were excluded, and others chosen, you would see a clear pattern of corruption.
If you like, I can look up a few dozen of the references I would use, and post them....several should be strong enough to convince you all by themselves.
It should be enough to convince you that the data on global warming proves nothing.....
This does not make it impossible for global warming to occur...it just means that what has been put out so far is a big lie.

Regards,
DanV
 
I'd be interested danvolker, in the references. In general I have not found anything consistent in the area of climate science from either side and find it interesting how people hold such strong views on a subject that cannot even be modelled accurately yet.
 

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