Halcyon Question

[fnfalman]

I just recently purchased a Halcyon Infiniti 30 lb wing set-up. I am in the process of getting it fitting to me and I noticed that this wing has a really short corrugated inflator hose....like standard 12". I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get a longer replacement hose to fit.....say around 20-22". I called Extreme Exposure where I purchased the wing and they said that Halcyon only makes the standard 12" and the shorter 9" corrugated hoses.

Any information would be greatly appreciated!!

The shop can get a longer corrugated hose for you and fit it onto the Halcyon elbow.

Or Dive Rite hose/elbow/threaded fitting will fit also. I know, because I took my Dive Rite corrugated hose with Atomic inline octo and screw it onto my Halcyon Infinity.

 

[fnfalman]

Simplicity goes away once you start changing the system...

Did the installation of an inline octo somehow changes the way the wing works or the harness works?

 

[a22shady]

Now that you have the system try and play with what you have. Once you get used to it maybe try out the system with Long/Short hose configuration where your octo is on a bungee around your neck. You do not need to be a Technical diver to dive like this and the set-up does have a lot of merrit even for OW.

 

[fnfalman]

You do not need to be a Technical diver to dive like this and the set-up does have a lot of merrit even for OW.

No, you don't need to be a tech diver to do the short hose/long hose configuration. BUT not everybody wants to do it, and the inline octo configuration works just fine. It's not going to kill you. At least not unless you don't know how to work it.

 

[PharmD2b31]

I did manage to put the Air-2/octo on my Halcyon Infinity.......I purchased a 22" Dive Rite Corrugated hose from Dive Gear Express initially......I put the hose on and only to find out that it is WAY too long for my liking, so I re-ordered a 16" Dive Rite Corrugated Hose and it is perfect.....hangs down not too far and it still allows me to have an Air-2/Octo combo that I can use........

Just thought I would share for those who may be interested in doing this as well.

 

[Scott L]

I did manage to put the Air-2/octo on my Halcyon Infinity.......I purchased a 22" Dive Rite Corrugated hose from Dive Gear Express initially......I put the hose on and only to find out that it is WAY too long for my liking, so I re-ordered a 16" Dive Rite Corrugated Hose and it is perfect.....hangs down not too far and it still allows me to have an Air-2/Octo combo that I can use........

Just thought I would share for those who may be interested in doing this as well.

This nationwide movement may be able to hold it's annual meetings around fnfalman's breakfast table...

 

[Crush]

...I recently purchased a Halcyon Infinity 30 lb set-up. Since I am used to diving a conventional BCD with an Air-2, I figured that I might try to adapt an Air-2 to the Halcyon wing.... But right now, I am adapting a set-up that suits my needs best for ME!!!

You are very brave to post that here! Good on you! I have got to see you diving near some DIR/GUE folk with a Spare Air and Split Fins! If it gets ugly I will be in your corner.

I personally prefer an octo with a short manual inflation hose - I find a short hose makes managing buoyancy while rescuing an unconscious diver easier - you can dump air from your wing and the victim's wing easily if your hose isn't pinned between your body and that of the victim.

Curiously enough, in Jarrod Jablonski's book Doing It Right: The Fundamentals of Better Diving on page 147 it shows someone rescuing an unconscious diver while maintaining horizontal trim - this seems unreasonably difficult to me, not to mention running a larger risk of a foot-first ascent for a drysuit diver (or two).

 

[Rainer]

Curiously enough, in Jarrod Jablonski's book Doing It Right: The Fundamentals of Better Diving on page 147 it shows someone rescuing an unconscious diver while maintaining horizontal trim - this seems unreasonably difficult to me, not to mention running a larger risk of a foot-first ascent for a drysuit diver (or two).

It's taught to *every* diver who takes Fundamentals. It's surprisingly easy with the right technique and some practice.

 

[Crush]

It's taught to *every* diver who takes Fundamentals. It's surprisingly easy with the right technique and some practice.

I didn't take Fundies. I was taught to surface in a vertical position with an unconscious diver - this will cause the drysuits to vent automatically as you surface. Do you keep rolling an unconscious victim onto his/her right-hand side? Why not surface vertically?

 

[Rainer]

A very slight roll (what you'd do to vent your own suit) vents his just as well. Really, it isn't an issue.

Reasons for learning to do it horizontally include:

(1) Increased drag on ascent which leads to increased control (i.e. why we ascend in horizontal trim normally).

(2) Using only the unconscious diver's BC "sandwiches" him underneath you, making accidental separation much less likely (i.e. if you let go, he isn't going anywhere, unlike in the vertical position).

(3) Allows for horizontal movement (e.g. exiting cave, wreck, maneuvering around ascent line, through kelp, etc). Since any such movements might be needed, better to learn them from the start.

I didn't take Fundies. I was taught to surface in a vertical position with an unconscious diver - this will cause the drysuits to vent automatically as you surface. Do you keep rolling an unconscious victim onto his/her right-hand side? Why not surface vertically?