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Check out dives are standard pretty much everywhere you have a responsible dive operator. I believe Cocoview lets you dive the first day IF you have been with them within a year or two. But other than that, they want to make sure you're ok underwater... It would be nice however if it was possible to arrange a private check out dive the day you get there, so you can dive right away... Just my 0.02$:coffee:

I'm with you Codman...dive ops need to be responsible and cover their :mooner:

Of course, if you are a repeat visitor at a resort and they KNOW you well, that's a different cup of tea :coffee:
 
While doing my DM course, I DMd a few divers. And believe me, the first dive with a new customer is anything but relaxing. You litteraly have no idea how they are underwater, and you're supposed to look out for them. I haven't DMd much... But I have seen some really bad diving skills/ behaviour. So I have absolutely NO problem with dive operators wanting to check me out before letting me dive...

I'm with you Codman...dive ops need to be responsible and cover their :mooner:

Of course, if you are a repeat visitor at a resort and they KNOW you well, that's a different cup of tea :coffee:
 
I'm with you Codman...dive ops need to be responsible and cover their :mooner:

I'll take you four additional steps past that...

- The DM's have to have a day-off sometime. Compressors are worked on, boats are fussed with, etc. A whole lot happens between the Friday afternoon "dry-off" and Sunday's first dive.

- Call it a "check-out" dive if that's what they really do, but very very few divers arrive in paradise with any idea of proper weighting. Want proof? Sit for a few minutes near where they hand out weights and listen to the lengthy conversations~ even with those who didn't show up with a new wetsuit.

An ORIENTATION is what CoCoView calls the process that begins Sunday after breakfast and ends after your first dive. You'll hear the verbal lecturettes which many deride as they are chomping at the bit to get wet. There you will learn of the physical process and facilities for diving- how to night shore dive, how to signal that you want your gear placed aboard the boat every morning... or not.

Most arriving divers get their weights and promptly ignore the warnings and basic Newtonian common sense physics- they then place their entire array of lead bars up on their locker shelf. This causes a number of follow-on phenomena, including the shelves pulling away from the walls and sporadic loud crashes when dropped. CXommon sense goes out the window, stupid prevails. The Orientation Speeches are designed to avert the obvious bone-head moves, yet some divers manage to blunder through.

During orientation is where they explain where the Photo Shop is, or where to buy candy bars or whatever. Every week, there are comment cards suggesting that the resort instal a Photo Shop or a place to but snack food. Go figure.

So there are variations between resorts in that Pre-Dive Orientation program, but most are designed to move you safely and effortlessly into the process. At CCV, the first dive is rightfully called an "orientation dive" because it shows you all of the u/w landmarks on the shore dive... where the ship is, the DC-3, the chain that leads you thru the reef. It also teaches you that you do not want to do that again with five (and more) over weighted divers who are thrashing around like wounded tarpon- the standard experience for the first day of diving.

Anyone who mildly objects to any form of "check-out dive" should be observed with eager anticipation... I suggest turning on your video camera immediately.

- It is an accepted fact that the great majority of arriving visitors to Paradise are dehydrated from airplane flights and the stress of travel... possibly that beer at lunch. Dehydrated divers cause DCS. Relax, un-pack and hydrate with non-alcoholic beverages.

- It is only just recently that arrivals at Roatan were early enough on any given Saturday that you could get-in a first day dive. This early arrival is kind of unique for most "more removed" dive islands. Understand that you can get to Cayman and the Bahamas for breakfast, Cozumel for Lunch, Roatan for afternoon tea, but the rest of the real big (comparatively unvisited) dive world in the Caribbean it will be pushing darkness by the time you get your first no-see-um bite.

The people that complain the loudest about not being able to fall out of the plane and right into Dive #1 seem to be the ones who are logging the big 1.85 dives per day when the week is all said and done. I have made an effort once to dive on Day #1, but it was a major hump to get my act together and be ready for the evening night dive upon arrival. Was it worth it?

You're in paradise. Relax, have a Coke, get your gear sorted out. Listen to the DM's when they explain the dive-op. You are entering in an industrial environment and oh... look! You're not wearing steel toed boots.

Take it slowly.
 
Thanks everyone,

I did want to get in the water when I got there, not really to dive but simply because I will be wearing a wetsuit that I've never worn before and wanted to test out my weighting (I know about what I need) but not being able to is not a big deal at all.
 
I can appreciate the need for a checkout dive but not a wasted afternoon.

Some of us don't fly 8+ hours for a "dive trip" to set on the beach, save that for the Surface Interval.


Its not a god complex, it's a paying customer with limited vacation time complex.

At your own risk does still should have meaning.

While I understand the need to take a day off, do maintence etc I fail to understand why handing someone a tank and lead for a shore dive, with a buddy even, is a big deal. I wasn't asking for a guided tour or a boat ride.

The first shore dive for me is a personal checkout dive to ensure I'm happy with my gear, weighting etc... doing it on the 1st boat is not "relaxing"

I don't drink, I sunburn easily, and I do not consider "resorts" as anything other than a gateway to the ocean with a bed.

I do however find weightlessness with lots of wildlife and bubbles going past my ears (when I can't dive my rebreather) quite enjoyable.


I have in fact sat and watched others struggle and I was there myself a very short time ago.
But I've been blocked on numerous trips due to "incidents dive shops have had with others"...

I'll never forget nor forgive the Alaska dive shops for their failure to allow me to dive on a recent cruise... I'd even called ahead, faxed all my certs, and packed 80lbs of gear *sigh*


Thanks for the warning that AK and CCV are the same... there are plenty of other places around the world to dive, safely, the day I arrive... service with a smile, god I love it.
 
It would be nice however if it was possible to arrange a private check out dive the day you get there, so you can dive right away... Just my 0.02$:coffee:

FI does allow a private checkout dive with an instructor (Arturo was the instructor last week) on Saturday, the day of arrival, off the gazebo. If not sure of equipment, weights, etc. you could do this. I think there is a $15 fee. Check with Roberto upon arrival and he will set this up. I found the dive operation there very accommodating and willing to please <within reason>.

If wanting to get in the water on Saturday, and you are a first timer at FI, you could always snorkel off the gazebo to learn the way to the wreck, airplane and wall, so you could shore or night dive it later in the week. Just a suggestion :D
 
They didn't have this when I was there. there was absolutely no way to get diving...:popcorn: But i'm glad they are willing to do this now! i'd gladly have paid 15$ plus extra for a tacnk or two to get in the water the first day...

Cheers to them!:coffee:

FI does allow a private checkout dive with an instructor (Arturo was the instructor last week) on Saturday, the day of arrival, off the gazebo. If not sure of equipment, weights, etc. you could do this. I think there is a $15 fee. Check with Roberto upon arrival and he will set this up. I found the dive operation there very accommodating and willing to please <within reason>.

If wanting to get in the water on Saturday, and you are a first timer at FI, you could always snorkel off the gazebo to learn the way to the wreck, airplane and wall, so you could shore or night dive it later in the week. Just a suggestion :D
 
There is an ATM at the airport if you feel the need to exchange money. We have been to Fantasy Island at least 12 times and have never exchanged any money. Just about anyone will accept (and probably prefer!) your dollars. When we are at FI, we charge everything to our room and settle up with a credit card at the end of the week.

Currently the exchange rate is about 18 or 19 Limp=1 dollar. My recommendation to you is to convert your money. I'm not sure about establishments on roatan but other places in Honduras will see that dollar of yours and raise their prices and take advantage of unsuspecting travelers. Plus if you convert your money you get to take more part in the local culture, as well as have more exact change (if something costs 190Limp and you give them 10 dollars thats not enough (and 11 dollars is to much) There is also an issue of security if your wallet is stolen with 360limpera thats only $20 where as if your carrying Dollars the amount is probably going to be much more. So as I see it converting is a better choice. I've always done it and never regret it!
 
Currently the exchange rate is about 18 or 19 Limp=1 dollar. My recommendation to you is to convert your money. I'm not sure about establishments on roatan

I would totally ignore this recommendation, At least he admits he is not sure about Roatan but there is no need whatsoever to exchange US dollars for lemps. If you were planning on spending hundreds of thousands of dollars it may be an issue but for most even at a really bad exchange rate you are looking at a few dollars for a whole trip. I have only been visiting the bay Islands since 1998 so I am certainly not as knowlegable as some but I have NEVER gone out and exchanged money just so i had lempiras.
As far as the taking part in the local culture BS , do not worry, as soon as you spend your first dollars you will be rewarded with Lempira as change that you can utilize throughout your stay. DOLLARS are local culture on Roatan and have been for a very long time.
 

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