The "Official" SB Scuba Course?

[Diver0001]

hmmm.... looks like this thread has died the death of all other scubaboard threads. We really do have the collective attention span of a mouse.

Personally, I'd like to work on the public domain definition for a scuba course. Even if the result isn't realistic, just going through the process might be interesting. Problem is we'd need a work group to grind at it for probably up to a year before it looked anything like polished.

And the process would give some of the braggarts on this board a way to put their money/time where their mouth is. Evidently we're much better at moaning about how it's done now than writing down how we think it should be done better....

disappointing.

R..

 

[Blackwood]

I think GUE has already designed this course and probably still haven't certified anyone (for the ~$800-$1000 per course)

It's been taught. Elena Konstantinou has great video of some Rec1 students' first post-cert dives.

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[sabbath999]

It's been taught. Elena Konstantinou has great video of some Rec1 students' first post-cert dives.

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Heck with all this figuring out, that video makes me just want to go diving...

 

[InTheDrink]

hmmm.... looks like this thread has died the death of all other scubaboard threads. We really do have the collective attention span of a mouse.

Personally, I'd like to work on the public domain definition for a scuba course. Even if the result isn't realistic, just going through the process might be interesting. Problem is we'd need a work group to grind at it for probably up to a year before it looked anything like polished.

And the process would give some of the braggarts on this board a way to put their money/time where their mouth is. Evidently we're much better at moaning about how it's done now than writing down how we think it should be done better....

disappointing.

R..

Need to assign the appropriate actors. I wasn't willing to contribute as I don't feel qualified in a general sense but might in a very particular sense.

Need people to say 'I'll own Nitrox' or 'I'll own OW skills' or 'I'll own rebreathers' and then get dates for first drafts.

There are enough gurus on this board that spend enough time posting that you'd think this would be achievable.

Some terms of reference should be decided also. For example the initial swimming skills suggested by one poster are not realistic nor required for OW. So my suggestion might be that you have a longer list of 'suggested' competencies but a hard list of 'required' competencies.

But come on you guys - there's more diving know how here than maybe anywhere. I'm happy to play a part but I'm a novice (maybe I can do a novice section) so am not really qualified to be assertive.

I think it would be a wonderful endeavour.

J

 

[DCBC]

No
GUE has an OW course. It is designed to teach people how to dive.

"Global Underwater Explorers

Mission Statement

Global Underwater Explorers emerged out of a shared desire to safely explore and protect the underwater world..."

 

[DCBC]

hmmm.... looks like this thread has died the death of all other scubaboard threads. We really do have the collective attention span of a mouse.

Personally, I'd like to work on the public domain definition for a scuba course. Even if the result isn't realistic, just going through the process might be interesting. Problem is we'd need a work group to grind at it for probably up to a year before it looked anything like polished.

And the process would give some of the braggarts on this board a way to put their money/time where their mouth is. Evidently we're much better at moaning about how it's done now than writing down how we think it should be done better....

disappointing.

R..

I don't see this as the problem. It just seems reasonable to have a good understanding what is to be built before we start building it. Don't you think?

 

[kjack_1]

Not many people bought plasma TV's when they were $20,000 each. Cost has to be a consideration. A course that has no students is not much of a course.

I do like DCBC's idea of a "vacation diver" cert though. A "short" course comparable to something like PADI's time constraints to provide a cert that is good only in specific excellent conditions, is a time limited certification (good for 1 year maybe) and requires that the diver be either under indirect supervision of a DM or buddied with a fully certified diver isn't a bad compromise. Have a 'real' open water that is the much more in depth course that some are looking for, while retaining a competitive certification for the vacation diver.

I agree with that. Yet folks still did buy them.

We had a fairly good start in this thread, then got mired down in all the wherefore's and what-ifs....and I'm probably just as guilty.

Basic Open Water.

For me, I am against adding any other 'new' certs. It just creates another failure point while lining someones pockets. Sometimes I just get that black and white feeling. Do you want to dive, or are you operating on a learners permit? No easy answers

 

[Kingpatzer]

Well, I agree that deciding what to be built is a big first step -- so I'm hoping to see some activity on the Goals page of the WIKI. If we can get that moving, then the rest may follow. I don't mind seeing activity on the other pages, as that needs to happen as well -- but a consensus of what an OW course should contain to make for a safe entry level diver is something that is going to help shape directions.

 

[kjack_1]

Well, I agree that deciding what to be built is a big first step -- so I'm hoping to see some activity on the Goals page of the WIKI. If we can get that moving, then the rest may follow. I don't mind seeing activity on the other pages, as that needs to happen as well -- but a consensus of what an OW course should contain to make for a safe entry level diver is something that is going to help shape directions.

WRSTC Downloads <<<<a zip file for minimum.

Any info from the instructor side of the house since this thread was sent thataway?

And . . . HAPPY FRIDAY :bounce4::bounce4: <sorry, I kinda get carried away on Fridays since I don't have and participant testing to do>

 

[JeffG]

Jeff, How many divers have actually taken it?

Probably none. (or close to it) Blackwood points to one class

The way it looks to me, given the numbers of GUE OW students I know of... it's just masturbation on paper at this point. I'm sure given GUE's track record with other courses that if anyone ever does take it that they'll be well trained.....

R..

LOL...remind you of anything?