Octo on left or right?
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As much as I appreciate the candor and openness of the discussions on Scubaboard, I'm afraid they can really only be considered anecdotal at best. You mentioned "statistics", which to me means only one thing - a published study of some kind. So unless it's been published on Scubaboard, I'm afraid that your invitation to "search on here" won't yield much in the way of statistically valid data or conclusions.
I am not familiar with "YD" - can you provide a link?
OP
Reef hound, your right they should both be on the same page.. in a perfect world. I guess the LDS could say you wear YOUR rig the way I tell you.. But I would think he'd have a hard time getting a DM to teach his classes.
The DM that advocated I have both on the same side said the LDS owner who is and/or acts like he is certied for everything short of space travel forgets that most of us are recreational divers.
Tom
The DM that advocated I have both on the same side said the LDS owner who is and/or acts like he is certied for everything short of space travel forgets that most of us are recreational divers.
Tom
The shop owner sets store policy, not the DM. If the owner believes the octo belongs on the left and has set up all his rentals and new regs this way, he needs to tell his employees that is how he wants it taught. I don't think he'd have a hard time finding DMs, most shops around here create their own DMs from their own students.
This has to be something the DM has encountered every single time he works for the shop. Either he isn't all that active with the shop or he would have already known why you had it routed that way. I agree with the DM's position but if he cannot follow shop philosophy he needs to find a more compatible shop.
Based on tradition (hmmm... wait, we didn't dive with octos in the 60's or even the 70's for me), mine is on the right along with my secondary. However, there are a number of issues one should consider, many of which have been brought up already in this thread. I dive solo 95% of the time and am unlikely to run into a diver who needs my air (due to depths I dive, etc.). The octo is strictly for me (or my son when I dive with him).
I carry a camera so the fact that my right hand is "occupied" with the camera also dictates where to place the octo. I reach across for it with my left hand. Now whether you're a southpaw or not may also be a factor.
I carry a camera so the fact that my right hand is "occupied" with the camera also dictates where to place the octo. I reach across for it with my left hand. Now whether you're a southpaw or not may also be a factor.
OP
thats the dig... the reg set up that I was upgrading from was a set up from him ( the LDS) with both on the right side and at first he swore he would never set one up that way.
The DM is very active.. he teaches every week, and he knew who set it up just by looking at it. I didn't mean to get into dive shop management and If I led you that way I'm sorry.
Basically I'm getting for general rec diving both on right. For tec, cave ,solo or other special diving i might want to swap it up.
Tom
John_B
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I had heard this is why Apeks made their new second stages reconfigurable from either side. I must be daft, but I can't picture this with the inflator, octo and pressure gauge all on the left.
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Hi Everyone,
While a LH Octo is totally acceptable, I still teach RH for the following reasons: 1) If you progress from Recreational to Technical, donating RH long hose primary has become the standard, 2) It 's the only way you can utilize an Alternate Air Inflator (AIR II, SS1 etc), 3)It's the most common set up someone is bound to run into, and 4) If you need to utilize your octo, it's already positioned correctly, no twisting of the hose, 5) Donating a Long Hose Primary works with any equipment set up, and 6) if someone does grab your primary, you are already set up for it.
Hope this helps,
George
While a LH Octo is totally acceptable, I still teach RH for the following reasons: 1) If you progress from Recreational to Technical, donating RH long hose primary has become the standard, 2) It 's the only way you can utilize an Alternate Air Inflator (AIR II, SS1 etc), 3)It's the most common set up someone is bound to run into, and 4) If you need to utilize your octo, it's already positioned correctly, no twisting of the hose, 5) Donating a Long Hose Primary works with any equipment set up, and 6) if someone does grab your primary, you are already set up for it.
Hope this helps,
George
Since when do divers set up their gear in accordance with some clerk in a store? Stores do not set policy. I suppose it could be said that the abc agenices set policy and for decades air sources go right and inflators and spg goes left. Even snorkels were originally taught on the right though they have since been moved to the left to prevent interference with hoses. Some guy in a obscure store decides it should be on the left---he is wrong---for decades it has been tradition and training just the opposite. There are times and places and reasons why this is sometimes deviated from but rarely in basic scuba.
I don't think I would follow the advice of a store clerk anymore than I would the door greeter at Wal Mart.
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