Suunto computers, how conservative is the algorithm compared to the others. Are we talking about repetitive dives being cut short? Also, If I am using a Suunto and someone uses another brand but thiers tells them they can stay longer....I am sure it will make that diver mad to cut his dive short because of me. Any help on this topic would be appreciated.
Suunto: how conservative is the algorithm?
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sclakediver
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This is an interesting question that I am currently trying to figure out. I have been told that the Suunto computers are more conservative than others, but I'm finding the opposite to be true. I recently purchased a Uwatec SmartTec, and have been diving with both computers lately. This past Sat we made a extended dive in the 100-110' range and my SmarTec put me into deco while the Suunto Gekko didn't. Both computers are set to the most liberal configuration.
I am planning multiple dives this weekend. It will be interesting to see if the Suunto becomes more conservative throughout the day. I'll post an update.
As far as your buddy ic concerned, they should be willing to follow the more conservative profile. I followed the more conservative of mine and made a six minute deco stop while my Gekko cleared me after a three minute SS.
I am planning multiple dives this weekend. It will be interesting to see if the Suunto becomes more conservative throughout the day. I'll post an update.
As far as your buddy ic concerned, they should be willing to follow the more conservative profile. I followed the more conservative of mine and made a six minute deco stop while my Gekko cleared me after a three minute SS.
deco_martini
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I dove the great blue hole of Belize last week on my Cobra (the Cobra2 is out btw). I got a full 8 minutes down in the 127-133 foot range with 2 left before a mandatory stop (I am more conservative than my computer, I always try to stay out of 10 minutes away from a deco stop. However, for deep recreational dives like the blue hole I just try to stay 2-3 minutes away and spend more profile time at 30 feet.)
I think the conservatism of the Suunto is most likely in nitrox mode where I have noticed other computers getting more bottom time. I think I saw this come into effect when I dove the devil's throat in cozumel.
Overall you are talking small margins in general. I think there was a 2-3 minute until deco difference between my suunto and some of the other computers people had at devil's throat. The main thing is, my dive buddy uses the same computer as me.
I think the conservatism of the Suunto is most likely in nitrox mode where I have noticed other computers getting more bottom time. I think I saw this come into effect when I dove the devil's throat in cozumel.
Overall you are talking small margins in general. I think there was a 2-3 minute until deco difference between my suunto and some of the other computers people had at devil's throat. The main thing is, my dive buddy uses the same computer as me.
Thank you both, I just hear how good the suunto cobras are and I also heard they are too conservative as well. I just want to make sure sure before I buy that I get full use of my possible bottom time and still enjoy the dive...BTW my wife is my dive buddy so she will have the same as me.
SCLAKE I am looking forward to what you find out this weekend on multi dives
SCLAKE I am looking forward to what you find out this weekend on multi dives
deco_martini
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Ive spent over 4 hours a day in the water with my Cobra diving the CocoView 5 times a day on nitrox.
I've done typical Little Cayman 3 dive days where you go 100, 80, 60.
I have never felt noticeably restricted on my Cobra except on 1 dive where I went over 110 feet on Nitrox. Of course, 110 feet is no longer recreational diving. I did do 120 feet on Nitrox in Grand Cayman doing a deep swim through but with the rest of the dive profile and subsequent dives I didn't run into a wall with the Cobra.
In other words, for normal recreational diving it is highly unlikely you will hit a wall with the Suunto. Only when you are on nitrox, diving deep, and diving less than 10 minutes from a deco stop are you likely to notice it.
I've done typical Little Cayman 3 dive days where you go 100, 80, 60.
I have never felt noticeably restricted on my Cobra except on 1 dive where I went over 110 feet on Nitrox. Of course, 110 feet is no longer recreational diving. I did do 120 feet on Nitrox in Grand Cayman doing a deep swim through but with the rest of the dive profile and subsequent dives I didn't run into a wall with the Cobra.
In other words, for normal recreational diving it is highly unlikely you will hit a wall with the Suunto. Only when you are on nitrox, diving deep, and diving less than 10 minutes from a deco stop are you likely to notice it.
Course it is! 130' is regarded as the limit for recreational diving.
I find that Suuntos tend to get more restrictive on the third long dive of a day, and then on subsequent days. Prior to that point I don't see much difference. I wear a Stinger all the time, and have also recently been using a Vyper. I noticed the same with both of them, compared with the DiveRite Nitek+ that I also always wear.
That said, I like the quality feel of all Suuntos that I've used, and I'll continue to use them. What I don't like is the abysmal battery consumption of the Stinger, and the fact that Suunto won't sell me the tool to open it, so I have to send it to them in the USA just less than annually.
i've dove the D9, Vytek, Cobra 2 and Cobra. Much prefer the old cobra to the new cobra.
I've done about 1000 dives using an Oceanic VT3 and a Suunto D9 (at the same time) configuration. I have done recreational dives and decompression dives with them. The Suunto is noticeably more conservative. Additionally, it is more particular about ascent rates and if you come up to 15 feet to fast, it will throw you in a one minute ceiling.
I have had Aqualung reps tell me that no diver has ever been bent following a Suunto profile (that is unverified and not my claim).
I find the hoseless transmission with Suunto's tend to be a bit more troublesome than with the Oceanic. The Oceanic hard codes to the sender. Both need to be "synched" above water.
Additionally, last year when I was in Bonaire, there were about 20 of us using the Suunto hoseless and were getting a lot of interference from camera flashes (correlated guess) or each other.
I do like my Suunto computers and stand by them!
Hope this helps,
jcf
I've done about 1000 dives using an Oceanic VT3 and a Suunto D9 (at the same time) configuration. I have done recreational dives and decompression dives with them. The Suunto is noticeably more conservative. Additionally, it is more particular about ascent rates and if you come up to 15 feet to fast, it will throw you in a one minute ceiling.
I have had Aqualung reps tell me that no diver has ever been bent following a Suunto profile (that is unverified and not my claim).
I find the hoseless transmission with Suunto's tend to be a bit more troublesome than with the Oceanic. The Oceanic hard codes to the sender. Both need to be "synched" above water.
Additionally, last year when I was in Bonaire, there were about 20 of us using the Suunto hoseless and were getting a lot of interference from camera flashes (correlated guess) or each other.
I do like my Suunto computers and stand by them!
Hope this helps,
jcf
halocline
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Oh, nice. Another example of the dive industry using misleading "safety" information to generate fear and sell a product.
There are no studies, NONE, that show any corollation between a particular brand of dive computer and incidence of DCS, and there is no statistical evidence that indicates one dive computer is safer than any other for recreational diving.
I am a little confused here. Just so that I understand, if you do more dives like 3 in a day or dive at least 2 a day for a week, the suunto will shorten my times to the point in saying why bother dive any longer than a couple of days in a row?
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