Corals killed by sunscreen?

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Junk science and feeling good seem to go together just fine! I will continue to use Sun screen thank you and would encourage anyone who needs it to use it! Sun Screen is the least of the problems faced by coral! Don't run into it and you'll save more than not wearing sun screen! People are so willing to think that some combination of the known elements will create a new element some how that won't be diluted in water that contains just about every element to begin with! Clothing is not a good substitute for a good sun block! If you chose not to wear it, it is your choice, but don't because of a flawed study!:no
 
Papa Bear, you don't have to get skin cancer to save the corals. There is such a thing as biodegradable sunscreen, which does not harm corals, and gives you the protection you need from the sun.


OK! Cool ... Any brands you know of?:popcorn:
 
Bob, try google. Many, many brands of biodegradable sunscreen listed. Never used it though, so not sure what is good or bad.
 
Titanium and zinc are still cheap. Sink in the water. I guess even if science is bad, cheap, inexpensive, high efficiency sunscreen is still ground up kitchen sinks.
 
First off I happen to agree with PapaBear here. Reason, I am a fish tank owner, corals (in my tank) require 4 major things to stay healthy. Light, Calcium in the water at the correct concentration, WATER MOVEMENT, and tolerable water temp without major fluctuations. If you tie a plastic bag over a coral it will DIE, sunscreen or no sunscreen. I would be more concerned with the Chemicals we dump on our lawns (eventually making it into our water systems and our oceans) and chemicals being dumped into the ocean by treatment plants all over the world before we start looking at sunscreen.

Just my H2O

Let the bashing begin....
 
This idea is so rediculous it is beyond comprehension.
 
I totally agree with those that say this is much ado about nothing. I've been on dive boats for years and have I ever seen any type of film on the water from sunscreen? No way! Get real people. Now you may see some type of film from gas or oil from a dive boat but from sunscreen? The idea is totally ludicrous.

I bet those folks that believe you should not wear certain sunscreens because of the danger it is to corals don't refuse to get on that dive boat that runs on gas or diesel.

BDSC
 
Sunscreens Cause Coral Bleaching by Promoting Viral Infections

If you click on the bottom, you get the full study.

Eventhough I agree with papabear about the polyethylene bag, and the variables involved with diffraction through polyethylene... As long as they have an adequate salt water control.... Conclusions can be drawn.

But you're right. In situ, in vivo, in the environment testing should be done to be sure. Still, you wonder if chemical sunscreen on the surface of the water can damage corals?
 
Papa Bear,

Why do you hate Al Gore so much? I have read on numerous threads where you accuse anyone who believes in global warming of being a liberal or Al Gore lover. You also went on in one thread to attack Barak Obama! There are plenty of political threads all over the internet, if you want to bash the democratic presidential candidates go to one of those. Yes Papa Bear I like Al Gore. Yes Papa Bear I have read his research on global warming and seen his film. Guess what I even saw him speak in person! He won the Nobel Peace Prize!

As for this study, I am a lifelong marine aquarist and longtime reef aquarist. I have written/write for several publications that cover the reef aquarium hobby. I have researched, on the home aquarium front, coral prorogation through sexual means and by fragging. I have researched coral health and how coral responds to different stimulus. I have worked with aquarium retailers and aqua culture farms as an adviser many, many times.

If you tie a plastic bag around just about any species of coral (soft, stony, sps or lps) you will kill it. Corals, when stressed emit a thick mucous that can remove sand particles and other debris from the coral's flesh. If this mucous does not get removed or whisked away by current it will in turn smother the coral having a rebound effect. All corals emit mucous when stressed and soft corals shed a mucous layer several times per month as they get larger. IMO the corals where smothered by their own defensive mucous before a lack of sunlight killed the zoxeanthelle algae in their tissues.

That said non-biodegradable sun block would most certainly kill corals. Depending on the coral species it could be terribly fatal. Euphyllia corals (a LPS stony coral) are very hardy yet very susceptible to infection from contamination. They have large fleshy polyps and once infection begins it can easily spread throughout the coral. Elegance coral ( a species of Euphyilla coral) can get a bacterial infection if just touched by a person. The oil and bacteria in human hands infects the coral and can kill a large and impressive colony.

In the reef aquarium hobby we recommend the use of water tight protective gloves when working in the aquarium. Perfume, deodorant, even body wash can all cause disastrous effects on not just corals but many other invertebrates as well. The only thing safe to use when cleaning reef aquarium equipment is hydrogen peroxide since it is 100% water soluble.

Sea horses, mollusks (especially cephalopods like octopus), sea cucumbers, and any soft bodied invertebrate are hyper sensitive to chemicals found in sun screen. So funny Al Gore science or no funny Al Gore science when you wear non-biodegradable sun screen you risk damaging the coral reef.
 

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