DIR and/or Hog not for the Atlantic?

[RJP]

In case Rich (the site's author) is watching this thread ...

Don't worry. I can assure you he isn't.

 

[MBH]

It don't think that it was a very good idea for him to post these two photos on his website.

 

[Belmont]

That one about the Padi instructor and the extra $50 charge...

 

[Daedalus]

Whats the body count for Hogarthian and/or DIR divers on Atlantic Wrecks vs. everyone else?

 

[vladimir]

In case Rich (the site's author) is watching this thread I would offer this::

Don't worry. I can assure you he isn't.

Yet somehow he got the link to this thread onto his website within hours of its inception.

 

[lamont]

Unfortunately, there's a group of divers in the PNW who are successfully diving 200-300 fsw wrecks in high current areas, with sometimes fantastically low visibility, successfully and have been doing so for years: Submerged Cultural Resources Exploration Team - Home

DIR works fine outside of caves.

SCRET also works with people who have the legal salvage rights to some of the wrecks and has, legally, recovered artifacts and done 'goal oriented' diving.

I'd say more but I need to get gear ready to go dive a wreck...

(and amusing enough the author on that page has already found this thread and linked to it claiming that this thread evidences "dogma", "bitterness", "bile" that we're "fanatics", "nuts" and "nazis" -- its amusing to be accused of that when the only point I'd like to make is that I dive DIR all the time under non-cave conditions that are very similar to NE Atlantic conditions and it works fine)

 

[Tienuts]

Maybe we should have some sort of competition - A scuba olympics, where different skills are performed with increasing complexity. Winning team gets all bragging rites.

I know who my money is on

 

[TravisD]

Yet somehow he got the link to this thread onto his website within hours of its inception.

Webserver referrer logs will show this pretty quickly. He may not be reading SB, but he's probably paying attention to his webserver logs

 

[daniel f aleman]

DIR works fine outside of caves.

Nope. DIR is a cave protocol.

Use of the term DIR for any other dive profile is nothing more than a misappropriation for one's own needs.

 

[Tienuts]

Nope. DIR is a cave protocol.

Use of the term DIR for any other dive profile is nothing more than a misappropriation for one's own needs.

That is the dumbest statement I have heard here.

DIR is a philosiphy of diving based on the following principals

Unified Team
Preparation
Streamlined Equipment
Balanced Rig
Cylinder Labeling
Standard Gases
and Conservative Gas Parameters

While it is no secret the roots of hog/DIR diving started in cave diving, it is a series of diving principals which extends to all forms of diving, no matter what the environment or location is.