Why NOT DIR?

[*Floater*]

Hi Floater, thanks for helping me. So those equipment are "just" recommendations only so that mean I can keep using 1. Single tank, 2. Use a split although some DIRs would frown on it, 3. use an inflator-octo (Scubapro AIR2) 4. don't have to have drysuits?

The line between recommended and required is a little gray, at least in the initial GUE classes. Some instructors might let you use all sorts of non-DIR gear in hopes that you'd realize how inefficient they are, others might not. But if you want to DIR then split fins are off the table. You don't need jets, but you would need to use fins that work well for frog and back kick. Air2s are also not DIR because a regular backup reg on a bungee necklace is considered the better solution, especially for tech diving (but you are supposed to remain consistent). You don't need a drysuit in warm water, and iirc I've heard of people using 7mm wetsuits in GUE cave courses in Mexico, but my understanding is that GUE instructors use drysuits there, and in general DIR divers would opt for a drysuit even if a 7mm wetsuit would be warm enough because of the buoyancy characteristics of 7mm neoprene, at least that's what my DIRF instructor recommended. He said 3mm and 5mm wetsuits were fine.

 

[RJP]

To me a balanced rig means also that when removed, the rig, and by extension the diver, are both reasonably close to neutral. Achievement of this goal requires (in most cases) the use of a weightbelt.

I don't think I'd ever be able to achieve that then:

With double 119's on a steel plate and a completely deflated wing and as deflated as possible drysuit I'm about 4lbs negative in sw.

If I ditch that rig I'm plenty positive, I'll guess about 10lbs.

So should I carry an extra 10lbs around my waist in order to be balanced if I need to ditch my rig under water?

So essentially I'd be 14lbs overweighted at all times.

Maybe I'm missing something but that doesn't sound right.

 

[captain]

I don't think I'd ever be able to achieve that then:

With double 119's on a steel plate and a completely deflated wing and as deflated as possible drysuit I'm about 4lbs negative in sw.

If I ditch that rig I'm plenty positive, I'll guess about 10lbs.

So should I carry an extra 10lbs around my waist in order to be balanced if I need to ditch my rig under water?

So essentially I'd be 14lbs overweighted at all times.

Maybe I'm missing something but that doesn't sound right.

Than ditch the steel plate for aluminun, and put the weight difference on a belt, but then you wouldn't be DIR. That's the issue with one size fits all situations.

 

[texdiveguy]

....... That's the issue with one size fits all situations.

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[dumpsterDiver]

Why Not?

I dive solo.
I dive too deep on air and nitrox.
I like having my pony bottle straped to my large single tank and completely out of the way behind me.
I can swim better with my full foot freedive fins than I can with jet fins.
I keep waiting, but have never actually needed to swim backwards (I never see fish swim backwards using their fins, why should I?)
I have no need to buy a big light.
I dive solo so, I have little use for a long hose.
The safety benefit of getting out of my non-DIR harness quickly and easily over-rides any safety benefit I get from the infallibility of a non-adjustable hog set-up.
I don't think you can "team" spearfish very productively.
I love my computer and I hardly ever get bent when following it.
I want no gauges on my wrists because they get torn off when wrestling with lobsters or fish under a ledge.
I like my snorkel on my mask (is that non DIR)?
I wear my big, sharp, pointy knife on my upper thigh where I can reach it very quickly (but I do have a "DIR" 2nd knife on my waist).
I like my AIR 2, which allows me to share air from my primary tank when I do have a buddy.
I put a stage bottle on my right side, because I often have a bunch of dead (or dying) fish clipped to my left side.
I like my console clipped off in front of me where I can read it by simply lifting my knee up, no need to use a hand to unclip a spg, just to check my air.

However, I do try to pick and choose and apply as many of the DIR guidlines as I can.

 

[Rainer]

Than ditch the steel plate for aluminun, and put the weight difference on a belt, but then you wouldn't be DIR. That's the issue with one size fits all situations.

Where do you get this crap? Do you have ANY GUE training? Any basis whatsoever for this patently false statement? Seriously...

 

[Blackwood]

Than ditch the steel plate for aluminun, and put the weight difference on a belt, but then you wouldn't be DIR.

That would be non-DIR how?

 

[Nemrod]

I would hate to rig up and then have to ask myself every time I dive if I am DIR compliant, would the guru ninja master approve, are the sitckers on my tank correct, is my entire dive locker properly stowed on my person, am I strictly in black, where is my "team," heck, do I even have a team, do I care--nah---ruins the spontaniety. No, just hand me my Aqua Lung, see you on the bottom. Everything beyond that is extra and not needed. N

 

[RiverRat]

I have a question regarding the commitment to DIR. If you consider yourself DIR totally, and you were assigned for two years to work on a Diego Garcia type island but totally remote, with unreal coral wall drop offs, fish everywhere, just beautiful ocean, clear and 80 F, BUT..you were the only diver there and you only had air to dive with, would you dive? Or say "no thanks, I don't have my team here".

You might have a hard time getting an answer to that :14:

 

[Dan Gibson]

Here of course

http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3095333&postcount=21

Where do you get this crap? Do you have ANY GUE training? Any basis whatsoever for this patently false statement? Seriously...