Are there any regulators made in USA?

[USdiver1]

Skin scars are sexy because they always have a story with them.

That is similar to what I have said to my kids when they asked my opinion about getting a tattoo, "a scar is a tattoo with an interesting story behind it."

 

[Eric Sedletzky]

That is similar to what I have said to my kids when they asked my opinion about getting a tattoo, "a scar is a tattoo with an interesting story behind it."

It's an even more interesting story when you wake up in the morning with a tattoo and don't remember getting it!

 

[runsongas]

@Eric Sedletzky its not about cheap, its about value

people are willing to pay if the price justifies it. the problem is other countries have gotten good at providing the same or close to the same quality and features at far lower prices. labor cost in the US is too high to compete.

 

[rhwestfall]

other countries have gotten good at providing the same or close to the same quality

You realize that they can produce equal or better quality but the person ordering it wants it at that quality to maximize their profits... Don't blame China (or other manufacturing countries), blame US Corporate greed (and, as you said, labor)...

"Cheap China Crap" is because, believe it or not, "we" want it that way....

 

[Eric Sedletzky]

You realize that they can produce equal or better quality but the person ordering it wants it at that quality to maximize their profits... Don't blame China (or other manufacturing countries), blame US Corporate greed (and, as you said, labor)...

"Cheap China Crap" is because, believe it or not, "we" want it that way....

The cheap price rules over all other factors including supporting onshore manufacturing. Forget about quality, if you can buy five of something for the price of one domestically produced then the leading sentiment is to buy the cheap one because five of them will probably outlast the one domestically made. When it breaks throw it out and buy another one. How many coffee makers and curling irons have you been through?
So the downside is you get five times the crap going into the landfill because you can't buy parts to fix them, they just give you another one (if there's warrantee) or you just buy another one.
What about Chinese emission rules about manufacturing, are there any? What happens to all that air that they smog up, does it stay in China or does it circulate the globe? As long as it's not done here I guess everything's cool right?
So they are manufacturing five times more crap that eventually breaks and can't be fixed and it mostly ends up in landfill because people want cheap crap.
This isn't sustainable.
A lot to think about.
Sorry about the rant.

 

[lexvil]

The cheap price rules over all other factors including supporting onshore manufacturing. Forget about quality, if you can buy five of something for the price of one domestically produced then the leading sentiment is to buy the cheap one because five of them will probably outlast the one domestically made. When it breaks throw it out and buy another one. How many coffee makers and curling irons have you been through?
So the downside is you get five times the crap going into the landfill because you can't buy parts to fix them, they just give you another one (if there's warrantee) or you just buy another one.
What about Chinese emission rules about manufacturing, are there any? What happens to all that air that they smog up, does it stay in China or dies it circulate the globe? As long as it's not done here I guess everything's cool right?
So they are manufacturing five times more crap that eventually breaks and can't be fixed and it mostly ends up in landfill because people want cheap crap.
This isn't sustainable.
A lot to think about.
Sorry about the rant.

For most stuff, if it’s made here it will be the same quality but cost more, this is the condition of things due to corporate greed.

 

[rjack321]

In the end, people just want stuff cheap.

This is how capitalism is supposed to work. The Taiwanese and mainland China factories can produce a perfectly serviceable regulator product for a price people are willing to pay. American manufacturers can produce a lot of things, sometimes things that China has no hope of producing. We buy regulators from overseas and sell back other types of goods and services that Americans make better, cheaper, or sometimes make exclusively.

 

[runsongas]

@Eric Sedletzky with the way things are going, the US won't be any different once DOGE takes out the EPA and OSHA. but don't worry, the milk that isn't being inspected anymore will keep you healthy so you don't need medicare!

 

[jellycatsdad]

This is how capitalism is supposed to work. The Taiwanese and mainland China factories can produce a perfectly serviceable regulator product for a price people are willing to pay. American manufacturers can produce a lot of things, sometimes things that China has no hope of producing. We buy regulators from overseas and sell back other types of goods and services that Americans make better, cheaper, or sometimes make exclusively.

Without China, Walmart and the dollar stores(as well as Target, Ikea and the other big box stores) wouldn’t have cheap stuff to peddle. But, where China excels is electronics and the supply chains around Shenzhen/Dongguan/Guangzhou are geared for quick, “scalable” production.

a good chunk of our gear comes from Taiwan or the EU. Scuba is almost like cycling when it comes to that. IST is the biggest ODM/OEM for our gear, like Giant(who makes Trek’s bikes as well as Cannondale) and Merida(who owns a majority of Specialized along with the Sinyard family) make the majority of the world’s “high-end” bikes(mainly in Taiwan and Vietnam/Cambodia), SRAM has a plant in Taiwan as well. Tabata also uses IST from what I know but they have a plant in Taiwan too. ODS, also in Taiwan makes Deep6’s regs to their specs. A lot of dive masks are made in Thailand, wetsuits are made in Cambodia now.