Yet Another Pony Sling Question

[O2BBubbleFree]

and my huge and very sharp knife is on my left side of the waist harness

Dang, Nemrod, I've got one of those knives, and call it my small knife.

My main knife is a Buck Intrepid, just wish it had a line cutter.

But, wait, this thread isn't about knives, is it? Sorry.

 

[ShallowDiverDave]

I have not seen that type of SLING before. Your poney/redundant gas bottle...OK I do not want to start a slahshing of terms...

SO REdundant gas bottle...works...

The way you seem to have it slung looks awkward. Your octo looks short. looking at it the bottle wiil be a DRAG...as mentioned, it looks like the valve will be in the DIRT if your close to bottom and may snag on floating lines etc...

The optimal solution is close to the body and to protect the valve and octo.

The way you have it...looks like your ready for a fight of sorts...ready set draw!



edit spelling..

I agree with your comments. I'm just searching for a way to sling the bottle so as not to clutter the bottle up around my inflator hose.

 

[scarefaceDM]

the sling tied off properly will not get in the way of your inflator hose. It should not actually.

Have a look at this little diagram of rigging: http://www.diverite.com/TecTalk/stage/03.htm

this methond works well. My redundant gas is out of the way and hangs just below my left arm and up on a slight angle
http://www.diverite.com/TecTalk/stage/09.htm

regardless of size. It is not in the way of the inflator

 

[Nemrod]

The bottle will not clutter your inflator hose. Your inflator hose looks to long. In your picture your standing but in the water your going ot be horozontal, the tank will not hang like that, it will fall downward and bounce off of your thigh and flop ovr under your abdomen in a twisting motion and will not streamline itself with the water--my bet.

Did I mention thta inflator hose is way to long.

Have you looked into some of the commercial pony systems? These seem to use a sleeve that attaches further back and up. I have not exactly figured them out yet. The reason I am wondering is that the sling method is definitly good with the BP/wing system but with the BC jacket you appear to be wearing the jacket occupies some of the space that with a BP/wing would normally lay. This is one of the reasons that serious divers seem to migrate to the BP/wing--just a lot more flexibility and modularity to the system.

I think your rig will work if you sling the buddy bottle normally, stage fashion.

N

 

[ShallowDiverDave]

The bottle will not clutter your inflator hose. Your inflator hose looks to long. In your picture your standing but in the water your going ot be horozontal, the tank will not hang like that, it will fall downward and bounce off of your thigh and flop ovr under your abdomen in a twisting motion and will not streamline itself with the water--my bet.

Did I mention thta inflator hose is way to long.

Have you looked into some of the commercial pony systems? These seem to use a sleeve that attaches further back and up. I have not exactly figured them out yet. The reason I am wondering is that the sling method is definitly good with the BP/wing system but with the BC jacket you appear to be wearing the jacket occupies some of the space that with a BP/wing would normally lay. This is one of the reasons that serious divers seem to migrate to the BP/wing--just a lot more flexibility and modularity to the system.

I think your rig will work if you sling the buddy bottle normally, stage fashion.

N

Yeah, I'm thinkin' so too. All my worries have been on the surface, and that's just not good enough.

I made the statement in the first post that the bottle will hang a lot differently in water : ) (prepping the thread).

 

[ShallowDiverDave]

the sling tied off properly will not get in the way of your inflator hose. It should not actually.

Have a look at this little diagram of rigging: http://www.diverite.com/TecTalk/stage/03.htm

this methond works well. My redundant gas is out of the way and hangs just below my left arm and up on a slight angle
http://www.diverite.com/TecTalk/stage/09.htm

regardless of size. It is not in the way of the inflator

good sites buddy...finally some pics with slung bottles in the water.

 

[EvaL]

I am right handed and it is easier to reach across with the right hand to the left side. The right side is for the octapus which routes under my arms and bungees at my neck with that new Manta quick release necklace (bungee is just as good). I do operate the spg and clip with my left hand, pony valve and regulator mostly with my right, knife with my right.

I cannot claim this arrangement as my invention, it is an evolution of many years and borrowing ideas from many places/people including right here. This is pretty much what I have come to have learned is called a Hogarthian (Hog) rig except--except, I use my faithful double hose regulators as primary and donate my bungeed secondary. I have been diving wings since around 1980 and this is my latest and perhaps most eclectic rig yet.


To be direct, I think you should sling the bottle left for many reasons including this is where stage bottles go and should you go off the deep end and go whacko and join the men in black tech bunch you will already be set up and accustomed to a bottle there (they put stages there).

FishDiver, no worries mate, the Air Buddy is still solidly in my kit. I mostly use it when going vintage as it can be hidden away easily and detracts very little from the vintage look and yet does provide some alternate air source. I would in this case, donate my double hose by twisting the hose outward as taught during buddy breathing, I would take the Air Buddy for myself--unless---the other diver is Air Buddy compliant--lol.

N

Nemrod, thanks very much for your reply. Your reasons for slinging pony on the left are very well thought out - I agree. I'll try slinging on the left in the pool next week.
Dive safely.

 

[ShallowDiverDave]

Well, I'm going to give it a try next week, and yes, probably fail miserably. But look at this bottle for cripes sake, its valves could drag on the ground just as well, no?

 

[ShallowDiverDave]

I dived today with the standard stage bottle positioning (chest to hip D-ring connections). I never looked back, because I absolutely loved how the bottle was oriented in the water. Incidently, I did do something I have never heard of. Because my rig is converging towards a "solo" one, I took something from DIR. Instead of leaving the stage bottle reg (really a redundant bottle for me) attached to the tank in the DIR style , I ran the hose from the bottle to a necklace around my neck. I can't think of a better placement for my backup air supply. I wonder if other solo divers do anything like this. So, no need for me to attempt the crazy rig in the picture anymore.