Yap and Palau questions

Please register or login

Welcome to ScubaBoard, the world's largest scuba diving community. Registration is not required to read the forums, but we encourage you to join. Joining has its benefits and enables you to participate in the discussions.

Benefits of registering include

  • Ability to post and comment on topics and discussions.
  • A Free photo gallery to share your dive photos with the world.
  • You can make this box go away

Joining is quick and easy. Log in or Register now!

markmaloof

Registered
Messages
24
Reaction score
1
Thanks to a generous flyer mile gift from my wife's brother, who has a ton of frequent miles he will lose, we are going to Palau and Yap for three weeks (to say we are excited is an understatement.) It will be Yap for seven days (the only way it can work with our flyer miles, fly in and out in the late evening), then thirteen days in Palau.

First and important is our dive experience/likes, etc: we live in NYC, so only dive once a year, have done our advanced (last year in Thailand), though probably have 35 to 40 dives in (have been to Thailand three times, once to Curracao, once to Bequia, and two cold dive days in Vancouver.) So we have some experience, but not super heavy either. We like to have a dive day or two, a day off, then dive a day or two, then a day off, etc. Don't think that liveaboard is quite our speed, and since we only dive once a year, we can still find satisfaction with some stuff that might bore many of you now (like reef life, smaller creatures, "pretty fish", etc.) In other words, not every dive has to be a deep dive to check out wrecks, we don't always have to see big fish/sharks/mantas (but looking forward to seeing some!) As stated, we like dive days off, so topside stuff like hanging at a beach, nature treks (or, say, checking out village life in Yap), snorkeling, kayaking, etc, are appreciated by us as well.

Yap first: are the dives calmer, current-wise, than Palau? We will probably get 8 to 10 dives in there (plus maybe Nitrox cert), so I'm thinking/hoping that if it's a little calmer than Palau waters, it could give us a chance to stretch out and get our skills up again (been about a year since we last went diving.) We thought about a smaller outfit like Beyond the Reef, maybe staying at Pathways (we like the simple Bamboo hut theme.) Yes, we are interested in seeing Mantas, but would also be happy if that was too murky to go to more conventional "pretty fish" coral sites, etc. As I said, since we only get to dive once a year, we are probably more easily impressed than those who dive a ton (though Thailand had some amazing sites.)

In regards to above sea at Yap, yes we know it is quiet (that's ok), just wondering if there is a small beach somewhere we can drive to (or hire a boat to take us to) on a day off. Will also check out the Stone Money, native culture, etc. I find that stuff as fascinating as the idea of diving!

Palau: I have read conflicting advice, with some folks warning that it's almost all high current and deep diving (though we are certified for 100 feet/30 meters), others saying there is a wider variety and levels of diving around Palau, and whomever we dive with could help us with that (we are thinking Sam's Tours, read great things about them, and they have Kayaking trips, etc.) Don't get me wrong, we want to try drift diving/the reef hook thing, some deeper diving, but don't want it all to be that.

Topside in Palau: I know this may not be on everyone's list here, but we do enjoy a bit of beach on our days off. I know that in Koror the only beach is at the Palau Pacific Resort, and that if you stay at Carolines you can also use that beach (not sure about Cliffside.) PPR is EXPENSIVE, but we are flying for free, so I'm willing to pay for seven or eight days there (unless the cheaper Carolines has a room), with a dive package, so we could use the beach, Kayaks, snorkel, etc. I talked to someone at Sam's tours who said there were a couple beaches on Babeldaob, and on days we did not want to dive, we could pay to be dropped off there and picked up if they had dives going that way. We are also not adverse to renting a car here or there and driving. Does anyone know if there is a decent beach (besides Palau Pacific Resort) that we could drive to or be boated to? Will also look into Carp Island (boats go there, I think, and they do have a rustic resort, though have read mixed things about it.) There is also a new place called Dolphin Bay on Peliliu, I think there is a beach there (Honeymoon beach). We would also not be averse to staying a few nights at a cheaper place in Koror (besides a week at the fancy resort) if there we can drive to a beach, take a kayak or boat trip, etc. We are going to be there for 13 days, but would be happy to dive maybe eight of them (plus, my wife's ears sometimes bother her if we dive too many days in a row, so we would like to break things up.)
 
Ok, looking at the post, I realize now it's pretty long. So for anyone who does not want to read it, in the short:

1) Are Yap waters calmer than Palau, making them a good warmup for folks like us who only dive once a year (have advanced cert, but only 35 to 40 dives so far.) Also, any beach to drive or boat to on a day off? Even a small one...

2) Is Palau all heavy current and very deep diving? We are not adverse to trying some drift diving/reef hooks, deeper dives, etc. but would not mind having some not as intense dives as well (yeah, I know that sound boring.) Also, any beach we can drive to in a rental car or take a boat trip to? (besides the Palau Pacific Resort, we may stay there, but due to expense, maybe 7 days, we will be in Palau for 13 days.) Carp Island? Babeldoab? Honeymoon Beach in Peliliu? We would not mind a bit of jungle treking (I enjoy animal life above the water as well) or kayaks, we like diving very much, but need days off. Nightlife (bars, etc) not so important enough to us, we have enough of that in NYC (though we want good food when possible, have been told there is great Indian, good Thai, maybe Japanese in Palau. We love Asian food!
 
Ok, looking at the post, I realize now it's pretty long. So for anyone who does not want to read it, in the short:

1) Are Yap waters calmer than Palau, making them a good warmup for folks like us who only dive once a year (have advanced cert, but only 35 to 40 dives so far.) Also, any beach to drive or boat to on a day off? Even a small one...

2) Is Palau all heavy current and very deep diving? We are not adverse to trying some drift diving/reef hooks, deeper dives, etc. but would not mind having some not as intense dives as well (yeah, I know that sound boring.) Also, any beach we can drive to in a rental car or take a boat trip to? (besides the Palau Pacific Resort, we may stay there, but due to expense, maybe 7 days, we will be in Palau for 13 days.) Carp Island? Babeldoab? Honeymoon Beach in Peliliu? We would not mind a bit of jungle treking (I enjoy animal life above the water as well) or kayaks, we like diving very much, but need days off. Nightlife (bars, etc) not so important enough to us, we have enough of that in NYC (though we want good food when possible, have been told there is great Indian, good Thai, maybe Japanese in Palau. We love Asian food!


Thanks so much for editing your novel. :)

8 to 10 dives in a week on Yap doesn't sound like you'll be taking any days off to me. :confused: Make sure you do the "Cultural Tour". Yap will be perfect for tuning up your skills for Palau.

Don't let the strong currents in Palau worry you. Palau is very easy diving. All you do is go with the current and look at the scenery as it goes by. When you raech your ascent psi go up and do your SS and surface. The OPs out there are experts at picking you up in the water. If you want to do a land based OP I would recommend Sam's Tours. Sam's Tours: Palau Diving Micronesia, Island Hopping and dive travels
I was on a liveaboard so I can't comment on the night life. Trust me, once you start diving in Palau you will not want to take any days off. Make sure you do the "Rock Island Tour" with Sam's. Cheers. :)
 
Thanks for the reply, Jim! Yeah, I guess I did write a "novel", duh! Anyways, we are staying for seven days in Yap, so that's why I figured we would dive for four or five days (couple dives a day, including nitrox cert., why not?) We would still have at least two or three days without diving (the last day, we fly that night, so have all day to explore as well.)

I read a bit about Sam's tours, so pretty sure that is who we will go with in Palau. The Carolines has a room for several days, cheaper than the Palau Pacific Resort, but we can still pop onto their beach if we want (maybe we will stay there the last couple of nights. We did find a place up north, North Beach Cottages, that looks like a nice quiet place with small beach and jungle to go away to for maybe three days, just for something different. We figure we will dive at least five to six days in Palau, but possibly a couple more.)
 
There are a couple of other recent threads in this forum about the Currents and Peliliu...read those very informative...don't worry!

I have been to Palau 8 times. I have stayed at the PPR, Caroline's, Sunrise and now days usually the West Plaza Malakal $80 a night. I know people who have stayed at Carp that place caters mostly to the Japanese market. The people I have talked to say they have felt a out of place at times...LOL...I have dove with Sams, Neco and now with Palaudive.com....I used to dive with Keith when he headed up the Sams Diving and followed him when he re-opened his operation. Cannot go wrong with him. Also many excellent places for Dinner.....Any questions ask away.
 
you could always stay at Village View/Rize Dive Centre on the north end of the island (Yap), it is right on the beach and has wood huts. Very quiet, right in a village.

Run by a Japanese/American guy named Daizuke. Good operation and close to Miil Channel

i think www.rizedivecenter.com but google it as i am not sure
 
We went to Yap & Palau a little more than a month ago. The dives in Yap did have less current than the dives in Palau, but that also depends on the dive sites that you select. We actually had 14 dives in 4 dive days while in Yap, so the 8-10 dives doesn't seem to be pushing it. The Manta dives were less visibility than I would have liked, but I wouldn't let this dissuade you from going on them. We saw manta's on every "Manta dive" that we went on". I would recommend the mandarin fish twilight dive. It is a very easy dive and we saw several mandarin fish pairs mating. We stayed at Manta Ray Bay hotel, and the mandarin fish dive site is only a 5 minute boat ride from the dock. Also, I do know that there is a relatively secluded beach that some of the divers went to on their off-day. We spent our off-days by kayaking through the mangroves and going on the cultural tour - both activities were very good.
In Palau we did have a couple of dives with very strong surge. But if you let the divemasters know your concerns they should not take you to any very difficult dive locations. My 12 year old daughter was able to dive at all the dive sites - but she is quite experienced. None of our dives were very deep and our average was probably around 70-75 ft. I would also recommend Sam's tours - they were very good and we really enjoyed our time with them.

Have fun/
 
As far as beaches in Palau, there's a good sized one on Ulong, which coincidentally is where they filmed parts of Survivor (it was the camp site for one of the tribes). Not sure how the snorkelling is off of there - we only stopped there for lunch between dives one day - though we did see a small reef shark in the shallows as we were leaving. There was another boat/group there eating lunch, who didn't seem to be divers but on some other sort of tour/excursion. There were also a few other tiny beaches we stopped near for lunch/surface intervals that probably don't have a name (and did have nice snokelling) - you may want to check with Sam's Tours (or whoever you go with) to see if they can arrange a trip for you if that's what you're interested in.

As for food, the chicken tandoori at The Taj is pretty decent. Of course, the presentation adds to it too (that's a sword, not a skewer - and though it didn't come out in the pic, it's on fire :D )


I'd also highly suggest the kayak tours with Sam's Tours - you get a much different perspective of the islands and waters you go zipping by in the dive boats, plus you can get a bit of a lesson on the local history and culture. When I went, the guide took me further in to the forest/jungle on a few islands, checking out some WW2 relics (bunkers, gun placements, beer bottles, etc), an archaeological site or two, etc., as well as some snorkelling in the bays. There are also a few waterfalls around Babeldoab you can hike to.
 

Back
Top Bottom