women vs men

[8buck]

Hello can i please put my 2cent in... I read all the post and i am bothered. back when i was going through school it was exciting to beable to dive for fun and the enjoyment. Same for the ladies. it is not fair for some guys to be bashing ladies because they are on their period. what does it matter? when you plan a dive do you ask the ladies if they are on thier period? when you get in the water do you forget you even have a dive buddy? if so you should not be diving!! I do not care either way I am always aware of my area and where my buddy is just to make sure nothing happens to her anyways. I do not know and do not care if the blood thing attracts sharks. I watch over my buddy no matter what and what if it did how exciting would that be. not many divers get chased by a shark. what would you do anyways leave her for dinner... Some guys need to grow up if they think they are that big into diving join the navy. But do not ask a female based on a dive trip if she is on her period that is so lame... anyways any ladies ever need a buddy in the brooksville fl area let me know. I will dive with ya. Looking for a new buddy anyways.

 

[Mverick]

Actually, That's the last thing I want to know. I'm the squimish type.

When a girl starts talking about it. I just walk away.... To much info that I don't want to hear about.........

 

[8buck]

not sqirmish just not a thing i need to know now if she was a preggo or some med thing but not that. lol

 

[diverbrian]

I ask for the information that she feels applies. I was in a class of all women through my open water. Believe me, I was ignored and the talk of feminine issues was prevalent when the instructor wasn't there. I may as well have been in a women's locker room. I have felt that way with most of my former significant others as well. They tended to make more "off-color observations" than I did.

I let someone call a dive for any reason at any time, but I won't call it for them. That goes for men and women. No body needs to explain to me why they want to call a dive. Again, that is male or female. I am sure that the women here have little interest in male specific problems that make us feel like not diving. If my dive buddy were female and it was an issue like that, I am not uncomfortable discussing those things. I just don't see the need if it would make my dive buddy uncomfortable to do so. If it makes them more comfortable to discuss it, then they are welcome to do so.

I don't know if this clearly states my insensitive male nature or not or "helps the cause" so:

This is just my two psi worth of gas, everybody is welcome to breathe it or vent it off for tank refill as they see fit.

 

[ScubaFishee]

diverbrian once bubbled...
No body needs to explain to me why they want to call a dive. Again, that is male or female.

...If my dive buddy were female and it was an issue like that, I am not uncomfortable discussing those things. I just don't see the need if it would make my dive buddy uncomfortable to do so. If it makes them more comfortable to discuss it, then they are welcome to do so.
...

Can't ask for any more than that.

 

[Dyno Bill]

Ok you guys, do you think that Loyd Bridges ever ran from a shark. For gods sake if a big fish comes be like Loyd and deal with it.
Bill

 

[inter_alia]

Don't be daft, gentlemen.

If there were enough blood in an hour's worth of "that time of the month" to attract any critter, it would land the woman in a hospital.

That this debate is still around astounds me. Just think of all the nosebleeds that happen at depth without a comment on the attractability of sharks... sigh.

Please feel free to ask or not ask questions, and I do think that the "womens locker room" feeling must have been uncomfortable -- but whenever I'm the only female on a boat, there is also a different atmosphere. It will always be thus, and only collegiate sophomores still have the energy to fight it in vain.

As for menstruation and diving, though, I thought it was settled that it doesn't matter unless the woman's side effects are making her feel less than diveworthy. You're right, anyone can call a dive for any reason.

 

[diverbrian]

inter_alia once bubbled...
Don't be daft, gentlemen.

If there were enough blood in an hour's worth of "that time of the month" to attract any critter, it would land the woman in a hospital.

That this debate is still around astounds me. Just think of all the nosebleeds that happen at depth without a comment on the attractability of sharks... sigh.

Please feel free to ask or not ask questions, and I do think that the "womens locker room" feeling must have been uncomfortable -- but whenever I'm the only female on a boat, there is also a different atmosphere. It will always be thus, and only collegiate sophomores still have the energy to fight it in vain.

As for menstruation and diving, though, I thought it was settled that it doesn't matter unless the woman's side effects are making her feel less than diveworthy. You're right, anyone can call a dive for any reason.

 

[Dyno Bill]

To be honest my earlier post was perhaps a poor shot at humor. Truthfully I have done many dives with gals, a number of them while on dive boats and the DM asked me if I would show a new diver around and to be honest I never gave this subject any thought at all. I'v not only never been acosted by a shark nor do I know anyone who has.
Bill

 

[diverbrian]

inter_alia once bubbled...
Don't be daft, gentlemen.

If there were enough blood in an hour's worth of "that time of the month" to attract any critter, it would land the woman in a hospital.

That this debate is still around astounds me. Just think of all the nosebleeds that happen at depth without a comment on the attractability of sharks... sigh.

Please feel free to ask or not ask questions, and I do think that the "womens locker room" feeling must have been uncomfortable -- but whenever I'm the only female on a boat, there is also a different atmosphere. It will always be thus, and only collegiate sophomores still have the energy to fight it in vain.

As for menstruation and diving, though, I thought it was settled that it doesn't matter unless the woman's side effects are making her feel less than diveworthy. You're right, anyone can call a dive for any reason.

I get nosebleeds all the time. Maybe that is why menstration is a non-issue in my book. Yes, that has been established. I probably have more cuts, nosebleeds, etc. from general life that involve fresh blood than a woman will have in the water when she is menstrating. On the other hand, my former fiancee would get cramps so bad that she could barely move. If she had been a diver, that would certainly have been a superb reason to call a dive.

I sympathize with the women that are the only females on a dive boat. I would think that it would be similar to the situation in my Open Water Class. No, sometimes it isn't fun. LOL, I thought it was discrimination at first when I was the only person in class who had to lug around an Aluminum 80 instead the shorter and more conveinent (for pool anyways) Al 63.

To be honest, I enjoy men's "locker room conversation" even less. I just don't like topics that border on crude from either sex. Females have made nearly as many crude comments in my presence lately as men. But the men's (to be honest), tend to be more disreprectful when taken at face value. The women (in my experience) tend to use innuendo and the men tend make "off-color" comments in actual wording which leaves nothing to the imagination. This is not always true though. I have seen some of the women (my ex-fiancee being one of them) who had no problem with using words of the "four letter variety." I have seen men who blush using the word "darn", so take that for what it is worth.

If a guy is having prostrate issues and wants to call a dive, he may not feel like discussing it. That is his privilege. If I a woman doesn't wish to discuss that she is having cramps and bloating and doesn't feel like it, that is her privilege. I won't ask if I get the impression that it will be embarrasing to the person (either sex). I do get embarrassed easily myself, why would I do it to someone else?

P.S. Sorry for the double post.