Why I will never buy from Sherwood again

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badmrchris

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or alternatively, "Why I now hate Sherwood"

A year ago, I purchased a Tortuga BC. I put about 30-40 dives on it and loved it. It always worked like it was supposed to and I liked the setup. I never had a problem with it or the Sherwood regulators I have used.

I took it in for the annual service two weeks ago to my lds. The tech examined it and told me there was a manufacturer’s defect in it. Apparently when they were “welding” the seam together on the lower right side underneath the dump valve, they “welded” part of the air cell too, causing the BC lose air. He filled the BC up and within a minute it was ¾ empty. I had noticed a slight problem with air in the BC on my last two dives, but it did not seem drastic. Good thing I did not run in to trouble and have to inflate on the surface, huh?

The tech told me it would take about six weeks to get the BC back from Sherwood. Naturally being suspicious of this, I tried to call Sherwood and get some sort of verification myself. Funny though, they don’t have a customer service number on their website. Nor do they offer one through 411, their manual or anywhere else on the web, as I hunted for about a half hour and could not find anything. Finally, after lying to the employee at a local sporting goods store, I managed to get a number for Sherwood’s parent company (name escapes me). I called them, and asked to speak to somebody in their Scuba service department. The receptionist seemed taken aback, probably because I, a customer, was able to contact their company personally. After a few minutes of talk, she patched me over to one of their service techs. I don’t recall his name, but I had no problems dealing with him. He was informative and polite, a polar opposite from the receptionist. He basically told me that Sherwood was swamped and it would probably only take them three weeks to fix the BC, but it could take six so they quoted me on the high side. Then I found out their headquarters is located in Santa Ana, CA, about 2 miles from my house. I suggested that I take the BC in myself and pick it up so as not to have to wait for unnecessary shipping time. Apparently though, this is taboo because this idea was met with much resistance. Perhaps they don’t want their customers to know where they are headquartered, either.

When I had a recall on my Oceanic computer, it was six days TOTAL until I got it back. 4 days in transit to and from, 2 days repair time. When my mask buckle broke on my Aqualung Quartz 3, I called them directly and a new one was sent to me free of charge within a week. When my Ocean reef Q strap broke, a new one was sent to me in a week. When I had problems with purchasing my Mares Proton Ice regulator, I was able to call them directly and they helped me out on the spot. And they’re located in Italy! In all of the above instances, I was able to contact the manufacturer directly without being forced to go through my lds or play private detective.

I understand that manufacturing is not perfect, and flaws occur from time to time. It has happened to me several times before. But to spend the kind of money one does on Scuba gear and be told that I will miss nearly half the summer of diving is ridiculous! So what if they’re swamped! In my industry, as well as most others, you bust your hump for the customer! Hire more people, pay overtime, have more parts/BC’s in stock! Albeit farfetched, what would have happened if this defect caused injury or death? I bet Sherwood’s legal and PR teams would have reacted at lightening speed. Furthermore, not being able to contact them like some sort of clandestine cloak and dagger organization is beyond ridiculous.

Is this typical in the dive industry? I don’t believe so. For these reasons, I won’t so much as purchase a $.99 O ring from Sherwood, let alone something of substance and value.



…oh and in case you missed it, those with a Tortuga may wish to double check the area just below the dump valves on the lower right hand side. Mine is probably an isolated incident, but just in case…
 
Sad to hear about your bad experience with Sherwood. I dive their Avid BC and their Blizzard regulator and both have been great for me.

Having said that I think recalls of that nature usually take that long. I'm already 3 weeks into waiting for my D9 to come back from Suunto for their recall.

Cheers.
 
Hopefully Sherwood will ramp up their act once they see how their competitors are outpacing them in service.
I've spoken with Oceanic in the past too, and they're so easy. I guess we're spoiled now. ;)
 
Foolish that a manufacturer would treat a consumer that way considering the nature of the defect. This is not a recall as I read it.
I once bought an Aeris Savant computer from Diver's Direct on close out. When it crapped out on me I took it back to the shop. Shortly there after I recieved a phone call from the Aeris rep who apologized and told me to go the shop and pick up a new computer. And sorry that the Savant was no longer available so I would have to take the upgraded Atmos 2.
That service will keep me doing business with them.
 
It's not that unusal that they are setup to deal with customers through the LDS network. They do have a contact form on their website where they ask for your phone number and email address so that someone can contact you.

The LDS did offer to send it back and as you found our you may get it back in 3 weeks.
 
gcbryan:
It's not that unusal that they are setup to deal with customers through the LDS network. They do have a contact form on their website where they ask for your phone number and email address so that someone can contact you.

The LDS did offer to send it back and as you found our you may get it back in 3 weeks.


I don't mind going through my LDS. Their the tech could address the problems with with Sherwood far better than I could have. It would have been nice to drop it off myself instead of waiting another couple of days for shipping.

I even tried to submit an inquiry directly fro their web page 2 weeks ago and again yesterday, and I haven't got so much as the generic automatic response of "Hi, thanks for contacting Sherwood! We got your e-mail and are working on it!"

Compared to all the other manufactuered I have dealt with, especially Oceanic, this was a real let down. Whatever, live and learn....
 
I have been diving since...... I used to swear by Sherwood. When they had the corporate parting of the ways (from the folks that are now Genesis or so I've heard), things haven't been quite the same. But dang, I still love my oasis+ circa 1980 something. Some days I dive with my new Scubapro, others with my Sherwood. Geez, the sherwood is still a favorite. I hope that the customer serivce thing gets squared away for you. This is a company that spawned the phrase "So simple, it's ingenious".
 
badmrchris:
I don't mind going through my LDS. Their the tech could address the problems with with Sherwood far better than I could have. It would have been nice to drop it off myself instead of waiting another couple of days for shipping.

I even tried to submit an inquiry directly fro their web page 2 weeks ago and again yesterday, and I haven't got so much as the generic automatic response of "Hi, thanks for contacting Sherwood! We got your e-mail and are working on it!"

Compared to all the other manufactuered I have dealt with, especially Oceanic, this was a real let down. Whatever, live and learn....

I hear you. Oceanic is exceptional in that regard as are DSS and several others. If that aren't responding to the contact form on their own website then that's pretty bad.
 
I have had a few incidences with Scuba Pro and Dacor. Scuba Pro was great in every way. They have earned my business back several times. Dacor I will never do business again. I have had more then one isolated problem with them which has caused to buy from other the Dacor. I believe that those who are servicing the customer efficiently by a timely manor and product will still be in business tomorrow!
 
Funny how it seems almost all dive equipment companies are now living by the seat-of-their-pants... having most of their products farmed-out and manufactured in nondescript S.E. Asian locations... and just hopin' and prayin' that the stuff gets made right... so that their slim profit margins don't take too much of a hit.
 

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