Whine in a Mk10

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rsingler

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You may have run across that really irritating whine in your Mk25, and Scubapro has long fought that issue with a variety of trial fixes.
But until today, I had NEVER run across it in a Mk10. Just finished a standard overhaul and used an OEM Service kit 10.500.045, two shims and a -| seat for the repair. Locked up right at 135 with no creep, and I was happy until I breathed from the second stage.
A loud, high-pitched whine sung out, and I thought, WTH? There's no stack spring in the HP gas pathway to vibrate! So I did the other Mk25 fixes: I greased up the the o-ring and piston shaft with extra lube. I rotated the HP Seat 180°. Nothing helped. At 500 psi, the whine was almost gone, but at full tank it was unbearable.

To digress, in the old days, that purple .147 o-ring would rarely buckle and your HP seat carrier would bubble away.
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The same problem exists with the 2-013 that folks use when they make up aftermarket kits. It's not common, but it happens.
Well, Scubapro made a switch somewhere around '98-'99 to that orange plastic washer, and they've stuck with it.
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Well, here's what I think was happening today. I think the square edge of that washer, for some reason in that high-flow gas pathway, was acting like the mouthpiece of a flute. Because of the problem of that thinner o-ring in the old days, I'd been using a metric 10x2mm duro 90 oring in my aftermarket kits. So I stuck one in this reg, even though I was a little unhappy about deviating from an OEM kit for a customer.
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And when I switched that 10x2 in, in place of the plastic washer, things were completely quiet. I think the rounded surface smoothed out the flow.

I'm learning new stuff every year. I thought I had the Mk10 down pat after all this time...
 
It's fixes like this I like this site. Thanks Rob.
 
And here I thought xmas gifts come a bit later, awesome discovery/soln.

Next time I rebuild an mk10 I’ll try to remember filing/rounding off the square washer if O haven’t sourced any 10x2s, just in case
 
Fairdinkum, half a dozen years ago half a dozen regs, two sets for manifolded tanks and a couple
of stage bottles, and they are screaming and I'm using orings as that is all I know, and the people
on the boat are fixing them for me, put extra grease on the piston put new seats different grease

Went home swapped all the seats around some old some new and voila life was wonderful again

Took them back into the water recently untouched and could not even hear the piston operating

But boy was the exhaust pumping, through only one port really loud, maybe that was the reason

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With nice clean cam bands holding the vessel to the pestle

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Did you all know that when you add a pound of weight to your cam band
you are adding a pound of weight, to the 35 pounds, that is already there

Did you ever hear anything like that

Yeah interesting!
 
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