Which worthington?

[OldNSalty]

I currently have a pair of AL100s and they are nice enough. The weight/size are manageable and they provide adequate air for my dives.

I was noticing the Worthington 100s at the local shop and started to compare the two tanks on paper. The Worthington is of course physically smaller and lighter with better buoyancy characteristics. I then noticed that the 120’s the shop sells for just a little more are still lighter then my tanks (and not much taller).

Now getting the tanks field to capacity isn’t an issue and while I am not a massive guy I think I can physically lug around either the 100 or 120, so is it better to get just the amount of air you need or the most you can when buying a tank?

I am specifically comparing just these 2 models vs what I currently dive with.

 

[daz88]

see if you can rent a 120 and dive with it. See how it feels while you're in the water. Being able to carry it is different than being able to dive with it. But if you're diving wih an AL100, I would think a steel 120 wouldn't be a problem. But best to try it out before you drop a lot of money on some tanks. the 120 costs only alittle more than the 100, myself, I would rather have more air than less.

 

[Rick Christ]

DO NOT BUY WORTHINGTON galvanize tanks SP14157 or the 3AA

Lastest info:

Factory sources are saying Galvanize coating is too thick at manufacture. That’s one of the problems. Worthington Pres. meet with DOT last week and asked to change special permit to test by REE. That will help the one problem, but E14157’s are still not stopping the run out of expansion. This is a problem with both PST and these Worthington’s. REE is already on the tanks and the last two I failed would have passed by REE.

This is a manufacturing problem. only PST & Worthington’s Galvanized tanks are having this problem. Asahi’s is not having this problem, Faber, TW, Norris steel do not have this kind of problems.

XSscuba is now including shipping. They heard you guys.

Anyone with Worthington E14157 hold off with any needed hydro for a while, Things are changing!!!!


http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/ta...g-worthington-hp-120-tanks-3.html#post5819506

I have stopped hydro testing the worthington's SP14157 and the 3AA galvanize. They are all failing, everyone of them.

 

[markmantei]

I recently picked up a Worthington HP130. I was debating between the 130 and the 100. What I heard was that the butt of the 100's can still get a little floaty when near empty (kind of the like the al tanks, but not as bad). That sealed the deal. If you can get more gas then great, better too much than too little...

 

[ajduplessis]

I don't understand why you want a bigger cylinder?? You did mention that the 100’s provide you with adequate air for all your dives, thus NDL is your limiting factor. Why a bigger air source then? Rather get something you really need, or towards a dive trip in the future!!

Yes the steel's have better buoyancy characteristics and lighter, so unless this is not a too big issue I think you could be wasting your $$$$.

 

[elan]

Unless you are 6'4" hp 120 can be on a longer side as it a very long tank 28". I would try it first.

Hp100s are though can be ugly for the backmount for taller folks as they are short.

I would check lp85 if you can fill it to 3000 and hp130. Lp85 is one inch taller Hp130 is not that much heavier but its shorter than 120 (25.5 or so) But its a 8" tank so can be an issue on some boats that only have 7.25" holders. Or lp108 which is a bit longer than 130

 

[OldNSalty]

My 'clearing out my scuba locker sale' is going slower then I would have liked so I haven't got the money yet to replace much of anything. I do appreciate the info on the tanks. now I am a little worried about the Worthington.

I don't know what 'SP14157 or the 3AA' means. Is there a Worthington that does not fit into this group?

 

[elan]

Im no way a pro in the tanks but as I figured out LP tanks are 3aa and the hps are the special permit ones. So they are pretty much all fall into those categories.

 

[Jax]

DO NOT BUY WORTHINGTON galvanize tanks SP14157 or the 3AA

Lastest info:

Factory sources are saying Galvanize coating is too thick at manufacture. That’s one of the problems. Worthington Pres. meet with DOT last week and asked to change special permit to test by REE. That will help the one problem, but E14157’s are still not stopping the run out of expansion. This is a problem with both PST and these Worthington’s. REE is already on the tanks and the last two I failed would have passed by REE.

This is a manufacturing problem. only PST & Worthington’s Galvanized tanks are having this problem. Asahi’s is not having this problem, Faber, TW, Norris steel do not have this kind of problems.

XSscuba is now including shipping. They heard you guys.

Anyone with Worthington E14157 hold off with any needed hydro for a while, Things are changing!!!!


http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/ta...g-worthington-hp-120-tanks-3.html#post5819506

I have stopped hydro testing the worthington's SP14157 and the 3AA galvanize. They are all failing, everyone of them.

From Worthington SCUBA cylinders SP14157 | Facebook

Recently there has developed a situation where Worthington Cylinders SCUBA cylinder SP-14157 have failed hydrostatic requalification. The following information is provided to you for use in counseling those who may be affected by this situation.

When the requalification process has been properly administered (by first conducting the required pretest twice at 89% test pressure followed by the requalification test to test pressure) X-S SCUBA, the distributer of this cylinder, will replace these cylinders when the following information is provided to them:

1. A completed hydrostatic report that shows the requalification process was properly conducted

2. Complete data is recorded from the crown

3. A picture of the cylinder clearly indicating it will not hold gas inclusive of the serial number. X out all markings except serial number and hydro.

For more information you should contact X-S SCUBA customer service at 866.XS.SCUBA (866.977.2822)

 

[Jax]

The Worthington's SP14157 DOT permit was renewed, here: http://www.ctcseminars.com/files/updates/Special Permits/SP 14157.pdf

Rick Christ, are you saying that in spite of the special tests, that the cylinders are STILL failing hydro? After the two pressurizations to 89% test pressure and then to test pressure?