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.. We need to know in which group(s) a diver falls in order to give the advice that best addresses their goal(s).

Yes. This should be post #2 as a routine and then wait for the OP to answer. Sadly it seems an opportunity for people to promote their favourite dive centre or venue without regard to the needs of the person asking the question.

Even in warm clear water where you get muliple diver issues you need a clear head and some experience to fall back on if things go wrong. I agree 100% any half competent diver can guide people round a site they are familiar with. Whether they can handle two freeflows at the same time is another matter.
 
Hi everyone,

I'm planning to do my Divemaster internship from mid-September to mid-December (up to 3 months), but since it's not the best season in Europe, I'm looking to go somewhere else. I'd love to hear your recommendations on where it might be best to do the internship during this time of year.

I've been considering East Africa, like Tanzania or the Seychelles, but I'm unsure about the weather conditions there. I'm also open to Asia, but I'm trying to keep flight costs reasonable. It would be great if accommodation is included in the internship package.

My boyfriend and I are planning to do this together—I'm an Advanced Open Water diver, and he's Open Water certified. Any suggestions or advice on locations, dive centers, or experiences would be really appreciated!

Thanks in advance for your help!

Raja Ampat.

If your going to do your DM take full advantage of it so you mind as well do it in one of the most beautiful dive places in the world. Mid-September is prefect as well. Windy season and the rain has died off and its the kick off to high season. Plus if I was you guys I would take full advantage of the DM and milk if out for as long as you can smashing out as many "free" dives as possible. Once your all dived out local domestic flights are very cheap within Indonesia so spend some time and check out some of the beautiful scenery, culture, and people, Indonesia has to offer as well (and I don't mean Bali. Indonesia has soooooo much more to see than Bali, not saying Bali is bad but I don't understand why everyone flocks there) In my opinion of the 60+ countries I have visited Indonesia is one of the most beautiful countries in the world and also offers some of the most spectacular diving in the world.

If do don't like how remote Raja Ampat is then try Komodo. Labuan Bajo is pretty touristy now, you can get pizza, eggs benedict, pasta, etc.

I spent some time in Zanzibar off the main Tanzania cost and the island is great, absolutely loved it but the diving... Mehhh can not say it was very spectacular.
 
If they fall into the third category only, then I suggest that they consider the NAUI master diver course instead. That one was, for me, by far the most challenging of the courses I have completed. (Although foreign agencies, oddly, do not consider it that way. For example, in France I am considered "niveau trois" by CMAS only because of one of my TDI tech certs, "extended range", even though that course far less demanding, both in the diving skills and in the written examination, than the master diver. A search of the BSAC website yields the same result.)

Still, I consider the master diver course the most challenging course I have completed. I had already the Rescue Diver cert when I did that one, but I had to do another rescue portion for it. The course had nine dives total, even though the NAUI regulations only call for eight, because the instructor insisted on one planned decompression dive. I had a number of navigation exercises. Some with a compass and some with dead reckoning. I had to show that I could tie about six different knots, each within a few seconds. I had to learn nautical and boating terms and on-board etiquette. I had to complete the "stress test." I also had to retrieve a 25 kg Danforth anchor from ~80 fsw. I was given a six-foot piece of rope and had to tie one bowline to the anchor and one to the bag, bring it up to 40 feet, and keep it there for about 30 minutes in a current, dodging hills in the terrain. But I was allowed to attempt that only after I had demonstrated to my instructor's satisfaction, and with a pencil and paper and calculator, the relationship between the pressure and depth and amount of air in the bag at that depth, etc.

I made a 98% on that written exam, and it was the lowest score I have ever made on one of those diving exams. I'm a real study geek. I practiced every single practice problem in that manual and in every manual I have ever had for any cert. I already had a PhD in chemical physics by the time I started diving, and by the time I got the master diver cert I had worked as a post-doctoral fellow for the US Department of Energy for many years. For me, getting only a 98% on an exam tells me that it was difficult and challenging.

I'd suggest that if a person only wants the depth of knowledge of a DM, and the challenge of being put through the "stress test"--and the practical experience of being put through multiple navigation and rescue and recovery exercises, as well as leading dives, but who has no desire to actually make a living by being responsible for the lives of other divers--then that person might consider the NAUI master diver course instead.

But then, the instructor is what makes all the difference. Be sure to vet the instructor thoroughtly before hiring him. Or her. I paid $750 for that torture (nearly double the going rate at the time for that course). But the instructor came well recommended. I have since hired him for other training, including, trimix, advanced trimix, blending, and sidemount. I even asked him about DM. His immediate question was "Do you want to dive for a living?" When I answered "Hell no, I have a day job and it pays more. This is for fun" he immediately discouraged the DM course. "You don't need that," he said, "beyond what you learned in the master diver course, all there is in the DM course is some business/client skills, and you already know how to add and subtract and multiply." I may be misquoting slightly, as that was 17 years ago, but that was the gist of it.
 
Just do the course wherever you may be and then adapt to where you settle when you get there

I hear Stillwater Cove in Sonoma County is the place to be right now to join the PURPS and learn.

and enjoy your learning as you experience your dives
 
Both divers in post #1 need to complete the Rescue course first. I would guess many people are sold on the idea by the dive centres with "dive for free" or "dive cheap" or "see the world" or some such other thing. The thing to remember about this job is you are there to please other people not yourself and your responsibility is to look after divers who lack experience and skill and may need help. For myself then I would suggest a couple of years' diving experience over a wide range of venues and a few hundred dives should really be the minimum level at which someone should contemplate certification as a DM. Certainly not at Open Water.
But...but...there are courses to sell and dive agency money to be made selling the "dream."
 
If they fall into the third category only, then I suggest that they consider the NAUI master diver course instead. That one was, for me, by far the most challenging of the courses I have completed. (Although foreign agencies, oddly, do not consider it that way. For example, in France I am considered "niveau trois" by CMAS only because of one of my TDI tech certs, "extended range", even though that course far less demanding, both in the diving skills and in the written examination, than the master diver. A search of the BSAC website yields the same result.)
Level 3 in the FFESSM system has a decompression prerequisite. Since recreational certs are no-deco the highest you can get to is level 2. It is not really about the diver's ability in terms of bouyancy and skills.

To be a dive guide in that system - if my memory is correct - you are level 4, which is a supervisory level. This is loosely based on the CMAS grading.

The PADI DM (level 2 - no deco) is, or certainly was, a certification primarily to help the instructor in supervising the students while the instructor demonstrates skills and works with individual students (thus being unable to supervise the rest of the group). A DM can also "teach" in that s/he can go through drills where the student is having a problem in a one to one practice session. It is my view that such a person should be able to handle problems and deal quickly and effectively with diver in distress situations.

To guide a group of certified divers (perhaps) does not require that level of skill, experience or training. Maybe PADI should create a new certification? (they seem to like doing that...) Being able to earn a little on an extended holiday is popular and why not?
 
PADI DMs are CMAS 3* and ISO 24801-Level 3 - Dive Leader. Their main roles are to act as a certified assistant during training, lead guided dives and deliver training (short of full Open Water-for example EFR, refresher training, snorkelling, free diving).
 
Wait… Just looking up scuba in France as I’m going next week - does this mean I (as a PADI DM) need a French Dive Leader to escort me…? 🤣
 
Wait… Just looking up scuba in France as I’m going next week - does this mean I (as a PADI DM) need a French Dive Leader to escort me…? 🤣

If you are considered 3* by FFESM or CMAS then you will be "plongeur autonome" to 40 meters when a director or monitor is absent (to 60 meters if one is present). They obsess over certs and levels. I have noticed this both in Guadeloupe and in the Mediterranean. As you wait on the dock every diver you talk to will ask you "quel est votre niveau?" (or "formation") I think it's because it is part of the governmental bureaucracy. In 2004 the Ministry of Sports encouraged, and the parliament passed, a law clarifying a previous ordinance regarding diving. It's all highly codified now.

The shop there will have a BSAC/CMAS/PADI/NAUI/SSI/etc. conversion table and you show them your cards and they'll tell you whether that equates to "niveau 1", 2, 3, or 4.

Here is more information about those levels, and the rights and responsibilities that they confer: Niveaux de plongée sous-marine en France — Wikipédia

I would advise you to take a thick wetsuit. 5mm at least. We were in the Mediterranean about a month ago and even in my 5mm I was chilly. My son wore his 3mm and came up with the shakes on the first day and sat out the second dive. After that they loaned him a 6mm (for free, which was nice) and he was fine. It wasn't as cold as the North Atlantic--I always wear a dry suit when I dive off the NJ coast--but it was cold enough.

Edit: Ah, I just realized that it was a joke. Well, I'll leave this as someone might find the info useful.
 

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