When your students refuse the day's dive plan it's time to set them free

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Ber Rabbit

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Date: 5-20-06
Time: 1000 hours
Location: Gilboa Quarry, Ottawa OH
Mission: Advanced students doing their deep dive (followed by a wreck survey and a night dive that same day)

Note: When diving deep at this quarry the owner requests that instructors doing deep dives assign no more than one buddy pair per Instructor/DM/AI.

I turned in my deep dive plan and my DM and I took the students to the deep side platform for a pre-dive briefing. I had 8 students so the DM and I would have to do two 90 foot dives.

The Plan: Take one group of 4 students (2 for me, 2 for DM) and descend along the line to platform at 70 feet. The students would get a couple of minutes over the platform to determine if they were comfortable continuing and we would continue to descend on another line until we reached 90 feet if all was well. We would follow the wall, turn where needed and return to the platform for an ascent on the line. I was concerned with minimizing the "wait time" for the next group so the DM and I planned to surface, change our tanks and immediately return to the water for another 90 foot dive (the computers indicated we were well within no-deco limits). Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do when you're teaching.

The students balked at the plan. "That's stupid, you guys need a surface interval. We're going to be here all day, take whatever surface interval you need." I explained that the computers would give us credit for each depth we were at and we wouldn't be spending enough time at 90 feet to violate any no-decompression parameters. "You should take at least an hour SIT to be safe, we don't mind waiting." The students were adamant (and right) and I was incredibly proud of them for standing up to me and making sure the double deep dives for the DM and I were executed in the safest manner possible.
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That made two weekends in a row (we dive 4 weekends) that they didn't like how the dives were planned and they felt comfortable enough to do something about it.

Last week they huddled up after the dive briefing and rearranged the assigned 4-dive navigation exercise into a 3-dive plan; good thing too because after dive 3 a thunderstorm started. They took the initiative, streamlined the exercise and still completed all the parts I assigned.

I'll be proud to sign my name to their cards and set them free, they worked hard to "earn their fins" and now it's time for them to leave the nest.
Ber :lilbunny:
 
That's pretty cool. I would have just done what you said. Baaaa
 
Sounds like you just graduated a group of future divemasters, Ber....you should be proud!
:giveusahu
 
NadMat:
Congratulations for not training up 'sheep'. Sounds like you had a good class there that not only listened to the plan but evaluated it and found it lacking according to good training they had received.... As opposed to the 'whatever the dm says' type.

Agreed. Nice job, Ber! :)
 
Ber, very cool of you to post this and to admit that even though you felt you were diving safely enough, that you didn't allow your pride to interfere with the safest procedure possible AND to have the awareness as an instructor to recognize that your students had your best interests in mind. Great call from everyone (yourself included), in the end.
 
Does this mean I can skip the final test??????????
 
pcarlson1911:
Does this mean I can skip the final test??????????

Ummm, no :jpshakehe :D

jim T.:
Ber, very cool of you to post this and to admit that even though you felt you were diving safely enough, that you didn't allow your pride to interfere with the safest procedure possible AND to have the awareness as an instructor to recognize that your students had your best interests in mind. Great call from everyone (yourself included), in the end.

Thank you :) They are a fantastic group; the majority have only been certified a couple of months and to see them develop that type of awareness and confidence in their own ability to "plan a better dive" thrills me to no end. They worked really hard in the class and never complained even though the water was cold and they had to carry all kinds of things on different dives. Some did as many as 18 dives in the class and definitely surpassed the required 400 minutes of bottom time. I can't even express how proud I am of them!

ScubaTexan:
Sounds like you just graduated a group of future divemasters, Ber....you should be proud!

I would love to see them go on and get DM certified, there is a lot of potential there and I sure could use the help!

NadMat:
Congratulations for not training up 'sheep'. Sounds like you had a good class there that not only listened to the plan but evaluated it and found it lacking according to good training they had received.... As opposed to the 'whatever the dm says' type.

Thank you. They were exceptional when it came time to look at the goals for the day and compare them to the given plan. I always encourage my students to look for better ways to do things and to feel free to speak up. I've never been afraid to change a plan when someone proposes a better way to accomplish the same goal and I hope my students have never been afraid to do the proposing.

Hopefully no DM's they deal with in the future are insulted when one of them says, "Are you insane?" after hearing a dive plan LOL!

fairybasslet:
That's pretty cool. I would have just done what you said. Baaaa

Nah, spend a little time with me and you'll be looking for the safest and easiest way to get the dive done. You wouldn't be afraid to speak up by the end of the class :D
Ber :lilbunny:
 

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