when is a cave dive a CAVE dive

[Spectre]

(note to self: check membership lists of Massechusets National Socialist party to see if they have a MASS Diver listed)

He got tossed out because his vodka flask was leaking!

 

[Snowbear]

So now I'm polling divers on the Scubaboard and hope they haven't made up their profiles. And considering a cave class, but not sure how many caves are available to dive up here in Alaska.
thanks all

I've heard there are a couple of divable caves, but they're an expedition to get to.
There are, however, a few excellent little swimthroughs......

 

[String]

From reading his description i dont think its anywhere near as bad as people are making out.
6-8 minutes in a small cave with a guide and presumably others doesnt sound that extreme

He hasnt mentioned the daylight visibility or not.

 

[MASS-Diver]

He got tossed out because his vodka flask was leaking!

LOL

String, as I posted earlier my only experince with vacation diver guides has been second hand. What's their role of the guide in an emergency, are they always the ones that donates gas?

I guess I just always picture these dives being done by people that might die if they lose their mask, never mind having to deal with a free flow in a coral cave at 90'.

 

[JustJoe]

So, with some of the definitions of cave and cavern, I think I am getting confused as to what some dive sites allow. Correct me if I am wrong, but I read where Ginnie Springs allows OW certified divers to do cavern dives (I am not advocating this). What is the deal with this? And I think there are others but I cannot recall off the top of my head.

Joe

 

[String]

I guess I just always picture these dives being done by people that might die if they lose their mask, never mind having to deal with a free flow in a coral cave at 90'.

Scarey thought, someone who could die by just losing a mask....

As far as im aware (and my experience of padi style resort diving is limited) you are *supposed* to have a buddy to get air off but the guide expects to have to help if needed.

Could be wrong and no idea what the exact procedure is.

 

[Spectre]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I read where Ginnie Springs allows OW certified divers to do cavern dives (I am not advocating this). What is the deal with this?

Yes. There are a few caverns that OW divers are allowed in. They tend to have very thick permanent lines that the OW diver can haul themselves out of. I tend to call those "Darwin Lines", so you can probably guess my opinion of it.

 

[Chocoholic]

From reading his description i dont think its anywhere near as bad as people are making out.
6-8 minutes in a small cave with a guide and presumably others doesnt sound that extreme

He hasnt mentioned the daylight visibility or not.

limited daylight but everyone had lights, visibility around 50 feet. It was El Morro near Puerto vallarta, kinda a long swimthrough.
And "he" is a "she".

 

[String]

I dont see the problem with it then.

 

[MASS-Diver]

limited daylight but everyone had lights, visibility around 50 feet. It was El Morro near Puerto vallarta, kinda a long swimthrough.
And "he" is a "she".

Did you guys go through the protocol in an emergency, if so what was it? Did the guide have a buddy? Did she have doubles? Did they supply the lights?